Agent? What's an agent? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T11:22:51Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:116895?id=537324%3ATopic%3A116895&feed=yes&xn_auth=noLike all things, for some the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-05-30:537324:Comment:1438192008-05-30T20:59:37.657ZNeil Whitehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/NeilWhite
Like all things, for some there are winners, for others there are losers.<br />
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For me, for example, I doubt I would have got a publishing deal with HarperCollins if I hadn't had an agent, and therefore she can gladly take her share.<br />
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In your example, it may be that an agent would have brokered exactly the same deal with your fledgling publishers, and you would be a quarter down. On the other hand, your publisher has a very strong hand at the moment. If your book is successful, he could sell each…
Like all things, for some there are winners, for others there are losers.<br />
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For me, for example, I doubt I would have got a publishing deal with HarperCollins if I hadn't had an agent, and therefore she can gladly take her share.<br />
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In your example, it may be that an agent would have brokered exactly the same deal with your fledgling publishers, and you would be a quarter down. On the other hand, your publisher has a very strong hand at the moment. If your book is successful, he could sell each translated version to a publisher in each of those countries, and that might not be to your benefit. Also, as he owns the rights to the next one, he could do the same again. An agent might have negotiated deals with publishers in each of those countries, and overall got the best deal. Also, the promise of paying expenses for a European book tour sounds great, but only if the publisher decides that it is in his interests for you to have a tour. It's like me promising my wife a Ferrari when I make my first million. If I make a million, she can have a Ferrari with pleasure. But it's no gamble for me, because I probably won't.<br />
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The bottom line is that your publisher will look to maximise his income before he worries about yours, and sometimes agents can see the bigger picture because they share the same interest as you: your income.<br />
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Good luck anyway. I hope it works out. Always good to strike a blow for the little man. You are doing just fine all b…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-03-15:537324:Comment:1310232008-03-15T20:40:05.967ZjKathleenhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/jKathleen
You are doing just fine all by yourself. your $0.02, is still your $0.02 right?
You are doing just fine all by yourself. your $0.02, is still your $0.02 right? Well reasoned, and well said.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-03-09:537324:Comment:1293442008-03-09T23:12:03.172ZNewt Lovehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/newtlove
Well reasoned, and well said.<br />
The future will be interesting as it unfolds.<br />
Since I am not giving up writing, I will be a part of it.<br />
Best of luck to us all!<br />
Newt
Well reasoned, and well said.<br />
The future will be interesting as it unfolds.<br />
Since I am not giving up writing, I will be a part of it.<br />
Best of luck to us all!<br />
Newt John McFetridge wrote:
I thin…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-03-09:537324:Comment:1292712008-03-09T18:34:15.816ZJoy Calderwoodhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Dragonlily
John McFetridge wrote:<br />
<i>I think what's really happening here is we're starting to see a whole bunch of changes in the business model. It's too early to know how they're going to shake out, but I think we need to be open minded to the possibility that there's more than one way for things to work. It really is important to look at everything, I think and not discount anything.</i><br />
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It was inevitable that when only five owners had taken over every "legitimate" publishing house, there would be a…
John McFetridge wrote:<br />
<i>I think what's really happening here is we're starting to see a whole bunch of changes in the business model. It's too early to know how they're going to shake out, but I think we need to be open minded to the possibility that there's more than one way for things to work. It really is important to look at everything, I think and not discount anything.</i><br />
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It was inevitable that when only five owners had taken over every "legitimate" publishing house, there would be a breakout and an industry based on creativity would find new ways. With many thousands of new publishers every year and innovations in technology, the publishing field is evolving very quickly. Even the big-name houses, known for their reluctance to change, are having to acknowledge that and make some tiny adaptations. But they have agents and booksellers and their "legitimacy" to buffer their contacts with the explosion. In their absence, it is those outside the citadel who will shape the future.<br />
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In my opinion, of course. I do wish you great success.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-02-08:537324:Comment:1231202008-02-08T14:05:36.078ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I do wish you great success. You seem to have a good handle on this.
I do wish you great success. You seem to have a good handle on this. The translations are underway…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-02-08:537324:Comment:1230192008-02-08T02:18:12.052ZNewt Lovehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/newtlove
The translations are underway. The publisher will print the books and through the book fairs, sell the books to stores in the EU.<br />
The contract includes them paying for my expenses to do promotional tours in Europe as they come out on the market.
The translations are underway. The publisher will print the books and through the book fairs, sell the books to stores in the EU.<br />
The contract includes them paying for my expenses to do promotional tours in Europe as they come out on the market. I'm not sure I understand thi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-02-07:537324:Comment:1229402008-02-07T19:03:50.499ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I'm not sure I understand this. To me it means that their having bought the translations rights doesn't necessarily mean that book will be published in those languages. It means that publishers in those countries will have to buy the rights to it from Pascal Galode. I trust your contract with Pascal Galode spells out your share of each sale.<br />
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In my case, my agent sells translation rights. I get 80%.
I'm not sure I understand this. To me it means that their having bought the translations rights doesn't necessarily mean that book will be published in those languages. It means that publishers in those countries will have to buy the rights to it from Pascal Galode. I trust your contract with Pascal Galode spells out your share of each sale.<br />
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In my case, my agent sells translation rights. I get 80%. I promised twice in this thre…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-02-07:537324:Comment:1229232008-02-07T17:40:25.477ZNewt Lovehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/newtlove
I promised twice in this thread to diclose, so here it is. I have received permission to announce the identity of the publisher who bought the French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, and Greek language rights to How the Strong Survive (HTSS), with first option rights on all my subsequent novels.<br />
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Until October 15, 2007, Mr. Pascal Galodé was the "maison d'édition d'origine monégasque" (head of the publisher) Le Rocher -- last press account: 550 titles in 2005.<br />
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In June 2007, the…
I promised twice in this thread to diclose, so here it is. I have received permission to announce the identity of the publisher who bought the French, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, and Greek language rights to How the Strong Survive (HTSS), with first option rights on all my subsequent novels.<br />
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Until October 15, 2007, Mr. Pascal Galodé was the "maison d'édition d'origine monégasque" (head of the publisher) Le Rocher -- last press account: 550 titles in 2005.<br />
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In June 2007, the Pierre-Fabre group completed the acquisition of Le Rocher, and four months later, brought in their own executive, Vincent Wackenheim, to lead Le Rocher, forcing Mr. Galodé out.<br />
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Being too vigorous to retire, he formed a new publishing company, Pascal Galodé éditeurs, in Saint-Malo, France. Still only a few months old, this new house already has a few titles, and several more in production.<br />
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I am in awe that HTSS is chosen as the first book to be translated by this intrepid company, led by one of the most distinguished players in European and the global publishing industry. I trust that Mr. Galodé is right in selecting HTSS, and that it will meet his expectations as his editions are released throughout the EU.<br />
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Color me humbled, in shock and awe. Thank you for letting me share this momentous news.<br />
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newt<br />
Newton Love<br />
<a href="http://www.newtlove.com/">http://www.newtlove.com/</a> Thank you for such a reasonab…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-25:537324:Comment:1190932008-01-25T03:25:38.249ZJude Hardinhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
Thank you for such a reasonable response, John F. Sounds like you have your head on straight about the whole issue.
Thank you for such a reasonable response, John F. Sounds like you have your head on straight about the whole issue. Here are a few thousand for y…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-25:537324:Comment:1190892008-01-25T03:23:58.555ZJude Hardinhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
<a href="http://www.wrhammons.com/books-author-b.htm">Here</a> are a few thousand for you, John D., after spending about 30 seconds on a random Google search. If you're interested. This site, of course, is only the tip of the iceburg.<br />
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You know, most people <i>are</i> in business to make money. It's really kind of hard to survive without it. You can say success has nothing to do with money, but I understand starving ain't so great. If you're independently wealthy, or if you're still living with…
<a href="http://www.wrhammons.com/books-author-b.htm">Here</a> are a few thousand for you, John D., after spending about 30 seconds on a random Google search. If you're interested. This site, of course, is only the tip of the iceburg.<br />
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You know, most people <i>are</i> in business to make money. It's really kind of hard to survive without it. You can say success has nothing to do with money, but I understand starving ain't so great. If you're independently wealthy, or if you're still living with your parents or whatever, I guess you can afford to pretend money has nothing to do with success. For those of us working for a living, the old paycheck is pretty important. I'm not even talking mega-wealth, but it would be nice to actually survive on earnings from something you love to do.<br />
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You're right, though, that each individual must follow the path s/he feels is best. Still, implying that agents are by-and-large sneaky-snake cutthroat crooks is an insult not only to agents but the multitude of authors and publishers who feel they're an intregal part of the publishing business.