The Differences Between Literature And Crime Fiction - CrimeSpace2024-03-30T08:27:37Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:145714?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A145886&feed=yes&xn_auth=noYes Karen I agree with your p…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-18:537324:Comment:1523312008-07-18T13:00:21.836Zcarole gillhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
Yes Karen I agree with your point.<br />
I also like to be discomforted--having my belief system challenged--wherein, I think:<br />
Oh God! look at this different world I'm reading about.<br />
And it is interesting too to see what feelings an author has on an issue.<br />
The huge emotion of Grapes of Wrath for instance. the anger with which Steinbeck wrote about the Depression in the States makes us understand and feel so much--a time and a place many of us would be so distant from<br />
very good reply!
Yes Karen I agree with your point.<br />
I also like to be discomforted--having my belief system challenged--wherein, I think:<br />
Oh God! look at this different world I'm reading about.<br />
And it is interesting too to see what feelings an author has on an issue.<br />
The huge emotion of Grapes of Wrath for instance. the anger with which Steinbeck wrote about the Depression in the States makes us understand and feel so much--a time and a place many of us would be so distant from<br />
very good reply! Carole - I agree - I'm not al…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-16:537324:Comment:1520032008-07-16T22:50:48.647ZKaren from AustCrimehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/austcrimefiction
Carole - I agree - I'm not always reading just for entertainment - I like to think / I like to be discomforted, I really like to be challenged to see something from a different perspective, and I'm not at all adverse to seeing what the issue is that has got right up the nose of the author :)
Carole - I agree - I'm not always reading just for entertainment - I like to think / I like to be discomforted, I really like to be challenged to see something from a different perspective, and I'm not at all adverse to seeing what the issue is that has got right up the nose of the author :) I had to do some skimming in…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-16:537324:Comment:1517902008-07-16T14:02:04.303ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I had to do some skimming in all the ones you cited, and with a few of Rendell's. The problem was never with the plot, but rather with the emphasis on the lesson. Sjowall and Wahloo have been criticized for their political agenda.
I had to do some skimming in all the ones you cited, and with a few of Rendell's. The problem was never with the plot, but rather with the emphasis on the lesson. Sjowall and Wahloo have been criticized for their political agenda. Yes. We keep trying, though.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-16:537324:Comment:1517872008-07-16T13:59:01.643ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Yes. We keep trying, though.
Yes. We keep trying, though. SO DO I!
You're so right.
Bri…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-15:537324:Comment:1515632008-07-15T07:52:55.446Zcarole gillhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
SO DO I!<br />
You're so right.<br />
Brilliant novel. Rich in history, deep in character development, too.<br />
A work of supreme writing and thought went into making it the beautifully written thriller that it is.
SO DO I!<br />
You're so right.<br />
Brilliant novel. Rich in history, deep in character development, too.<br />
A work of supreme writing and thought went into making it the beautifully written thriller that it is. anything can be reduced and o…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-15:537324:Comment:1515612008-07-15T07:47:24.891Zcarole gillhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
anything can be reduced and over-simplified I think.<br />
I mean if you think of great novels--perhaps some would say they "preached."<br />
I just like novels that are interesting and force me to think, to feel and to consider, very seriously, the story put forth.
anything can be reduced and over-simplified I think.<br />
I mean if you think of great novels--perhaps some would say they "preached."<br />
I just like novels that are interesting and force me to think, to feel and to consider, very seriously, the story put forth. Taste is an interesting thing…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-14:537324:Comment:1515232008-07-14T22:49:05.942ZKaren from AustCrimehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/austcrimefiction
Taste is an interesting thing isn't it - none of the books I cited "preached" to me, and I'm also extremely preaching adverse.
Taste is an interesting thing isn't it - none of the books I cited "preached" to me, and I'm also extremely preaching adverse. "The Name of the Rose" was so…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-14:537324:Comment:1515202008-07-14T22:25:49.800ZC. M. Albrechthttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CMAlbrecht
"The Name of the Rose" was so absorbing and "literary" that it took me some time to realize that I was really reading a murder mystery, complete with amateur detective, red herrings and everything else that goes into a good mystery. I wish I could write a novel like that.
"The Name of the Rose" was so absorbing and "literary" that it took me some time to realize that I was really reading a murder mystery, complete with amateur detective, red herrings and everything else that goes into a good mystery. I wish I could write a novel like that. Ruth Rendell did this also. I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-14:537324:Comment:1514522008-07-14T14:39:19.993ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Ruth Rendell did this also. I'm really more interested in insights into the human condition than in reading about any particular bandwagon of social issues the author wants to politicize. Mind you, the authors cited are all outstanding writers, but I found the social message in each of the books to be a distraction rather than a point of excellence. (I hate being preached to).
Ruth Rendell did this also. I'm really more interested in insights into the human condition than in reading about any particular bandwagon of social issues the author wants to politicize. Mind you, the authors cited are all outstanding writers, but I found the social message in each of the books to be a distraction rather than a point of excellence. (I hate being preached to). yes, of course there are. but…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-07-14:537324:Comment:1513812008-07-14T06:21:38.388Zcarole gillhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
yes, of course there are. but didn't actually think of that.<br />
No, I mean something else. something deeper.<br />
A crime novel whose story is told in more of an enriched way--<br />
for instance, if it takes place in the South in the U.S., in the past, it's got to have real situations. not glossed over ones but real hit you in the head situations that might arise between the characters living there at that time.<br />
A story that takes place in pre-war Germany same thing.<br />
not to weigh the thing down--AT ALL! but…
yes, of course there are. but didn't actually think of that.<br />
No, I mean something else. something deeper.<br />
A crime novel whose story is told in more of an enriched way--<br />
for instance, if it takes place in the South in the U.S., in the past, it's got to have real situations. not glossed over ones but real hit you in the head situations that might arise between the characters living there at that time.<br />
A story that takes place in pre-war Germany same thing.<br />
not to weigh the thing down--AT ALL! but to give it reality.<br />
A book that comes to mind for me is Persia Walker's Harlem Redux. it's about Harlem in the 1920's--the story is so realistically drawn as are the characters. I came away from it feeling moved and emotional. and that's what it should be about. imho.