Simple Yet Gory Research Questions - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T10:22:24Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:29954?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A30484&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThen you don't really need to…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-02:537324:Comment:306922007-05-02T15:04:27.206ZStephen Blackmoorehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/sblackmoore
Then you don't really need to worry about the bleeding out / sepsis problem. Losing a finger won't kill you unless it's from shock, and that's rare. Most people don't have quite that bad a reaction to being wounded.<br />
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One thing about prepaid phones, they don't usually have cameras. Sending the pic from a computer would work, if he has access to one. And if he's actually trying to be found, the whole prepaid thing doesn't really matter much. And then, he could be using the phone of the person…
Then you don't really need to worry about the bleeding out / sepsis problem. Losing a finger won't kill you unless it's from shock, and that's rare. Most people don't have quite that bad a reaction to being wounded.<br />
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One thing about prepaid phones, they don't usually have cameras. Sending the pic from a computer would work, if he has access to one. And if he's actually trying to be found, the whole prepaid thing doesn't really matter much. And then, he could be using the phone of the person he's kidnapped, too. Well, Bill's right about the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-02:537324:Comment:305542007-05-02T05:48:21.309ZAngiehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/slackerwriter
Well, Bill's right about the pre-paid deal. That's definitely the way to go. Though, a convenience store that gets a lot of business would be better than an out of the way one - more traffic, less likely to draw suspicion. Probably sending the pic first and then placing the call is the way to go, though it can be tricky. I know I've had pics sent to me via cell phone that didn't arrive until way after they had been sent. But hey, it's fiction, right? You can have it work out however you want!
Well, Bill's right about the pre-paid deal. That's definitely the way to go. Though, a convenience store that gets a lot of business would be better than an out of the way one - more traffic, less likely to draw suspicion. Probably sending the pic first and then placing the call is the way to go, though it can be tricky. I know I've had pics sent to me via cell phone that didn't arrive until way after they had been sent. But hey, it's fiction, right? You can have it work out however you want! Okay, a little more detail...…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-02:537324:Comment:304842007-05-02T02:48:32.778ZJ.D. Rhoadeshttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JDRhoades
Okay, a little more detail...the person receiving the pictures is on the move. the kidnapper is trying to draw that person in, not collect a ransom.
Okay, a little more detail...the person receiving the pictures is on the move. the kidnapper is trying to draw that person in, not collect a ransom. I spose if you were callous e…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-02:537324:Comment:304752007-05-02T02:32:14.091ZSunnie Gillhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/sunniefromoz
I spose if you were callous enough to cut of a finger without anasthetic you could cauterise the room with a red hot poker or something.<br />
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No idea on the cell phone thing.
I spose if you were callous enough to cut of a finger without anasthetic you could cauterise the room with a red hot poker or something.<br />
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No idea on the cell phone thing. Okay, if you're going to cut…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-02:537324:Comment:304682007-05-02T02:17:04.209ZKaryn J. Powershttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/karyning
Okay, if you're going to cut off a finger, how much concern will you have about infection? Is it a short term kidnapping like spending money for the weekend (see Iraq, Iran, Mexico) or is it a long term kidnapping where you will be dragging the kidnapee around the country for months or even a year like in "Proof of Life?" I say do it at the barber shop and stick the cut end in some stiptic shavings. Dog groomers keep that stuff around too, for stopping the bleeding when they cut too close to…
Okay, if you're going to cut off a finger, how much concern will you have about infection? Is it a short term kidnapping like spending money for the weekend (see Iraq, Iran, Mexico) or is it a long term kidnapping where you will be dragging the kidnapee around the country for months or even a year like in "Proof of Life?" I say do it at the barber shop and stick the cut end in some stiptic shavings. Dog groomers keep that stuff around too, for stopping the bleeding when they cut too close to the quick.<br />
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As for the cell phone. Why not post the pics on a secure site and send the url to the ransom payer(s) in a text message from a phone with a disabled GPS? or You could hide the pics in plain sight on some kind of a fake ad for tracking down long lost friends using high school pics on the net. Stuart's right-bleeding out r…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-01:537324:Comment:301092007-05-01T14:28:00.525Znorbyhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/norby871
Stuart's right-bleeding out really won't be a problem. It's infection you have to worry about. Make sure you have some antibiotics around, wouldn't hurt to have the victim take some just in case, you also want to keep the wound clean, best idea would be putting some alcohol around the edges of the wound as a precaution-with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria around, you don't want to defeat your own purpose.
Stuart's right-bleeding out really won't be a problem. It's infection you have to worry about. Make sure you have some antibiotics around, wouldn't hurt to have the victim take some just in case, you also want to keep the wound clean, best idea would be putting some alcohol around the edges of the wound as a precaution-with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria around, you don't want to defeat your own purpose. If you are gonna use a cell p…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-01:537324:Comment:300862007-05-01T13:30:53.384ZBill Cameronhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/bcameron
If you are gonna use a cell phone, you definitely want to use one of those pre-paid ones. Pay with cash at an out of the way store.<br />
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But at this point, you can't send pics and talk simultaneously. Cell phones are modal, so when you're text or picture messaging, you're in one mode, and when you're talking you're in another. The best you could do is send the pics and then immediately make a call. Of course, in the next few months, the technology will change again and you'll be able to send pics,…
If you are gonna use a cell phone, you definitely want to use one of those pre-paid ones. Pay with cash at an out of the way store.<br />
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But at this point, you can't send pics and talk simultaneously. Cell phones are modal, so when you're text or picture messaging, you're in one mode, and when you're talking you're in another. The best you could do is send the pics and then immediately make a call. Of course, in the next few months, the technology will change again and you'll be able to send pics, talking, and toast a cheese sandwich with your phone all at the same time.<br />
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As for the finger, prepare by tightly rubberbanding the finger first. This gives you a chance to be sadistic about it. For added sadism and convenience, cauterize the wound with a car cigarette lighter. Then, just to show you're not such a bad guy, put some neosporin in the bandage. Wouldn't want them to get infected, after all. Lopping off a finger isn't en…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-01:537324:Comment:300212007-05-01T08:14:52.535ZStuart MacBridehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Macbride
Lopping off a finger isn't enough to make someone bleed out. A hand: maybe, a finger: no. But a tourniquet around the finger will cut down on the mess - elastic bands are good. And if you're prepared to lop off a finger, you probably won't care if the remaining stump goes necrotic.<br />
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It's never bothered me, anyway.
Lopping off a finger isn't enough to make someone bleed out. A hand: maybe, a finger: no. But a tourniquet around the finger will cut down on the mess - elastic bands are good. And if you're prepared to lop off a finger, you probably won't care if the remaining stump goes necrotic.<br />
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It's never bothered me, anyway. 1) Salt. Under a band-aid. I'…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-01:537324:Comment:300182007-05-01T07:52:49.404ZSean Lindsayhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/seanlindsay
1) Salt. Under a band-aid. I've only tried it a couple times, though.<br />
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2) All the cool kids are on Flickr. Cell to cell leaves a data trail.
1) Salt. Under a band-aid. I've only tried it a couple times, though.<br />
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2) All the cool kids are on Flickr. Cell to cell leaves a data trail. Bloody hell, there's a lot to…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-05-01:537324:Comment:299592007-05-01T04:16:30.126ZDamien Gayhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/crimedownunder
Bloody hell, there's a lot to take into consideration just to earn a dishonest buck!<br />
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(1) A tight bandage should stem the blood flow, perhaps tying off the finger with the kidnapee's shoelace should be effective.<br />
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(2) I'd have to call my 11 year old daughter in to advise me on how to use my cell phone. Of course, before she gives me her advice I'd have to help her overcome the hysterics from all that blood.
Bloody hell, there's a lot to take into consideration just to earn a dishonest buck!<br />
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(1) A tight bandage should stem the blood flow, perhaps tying off the finger with the kidnapee's shoelace should be effective.<br />
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(2) I'd have to call my 11 year old daughter in to advise me on how to use my cell phone. Of course, before she gives me her advice I'd have to help her overcome the hysterics from all that blood.