The show that started it all? - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T19:01:50Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:49526?feed=yes&xn_auth=noFor me Homicide was far and a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-07-02:537324:Comment:519552007-07-02T15:15:53.085ZMichael C. Jacobshttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Griftwriter
For me Homicide was far and away the best police show on television ever (with Hill Street Blues and Barney Miller a very distant second and third.)<br />
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Then I watched The Wire.<br />
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Holy Cow is it great!
For me Homicide was far and away the best police show on television ever (with Hill Street Blues and Barney Miller a very distant second and third.)<br />
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Then I watched The Wire.<br />
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Holy Cow is it great! And here I thought it all sta…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:498212007-06-20T22:24:15.480ZBarbara Fisterhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Bfister
And here I thought it all started with The Sweeney.<br />
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I second the nomination of Simon's book (to read) and The Wire (to watch).
And here I thought it all started with The Sweeney.<br />
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I second the nomination of Simon's book (to read) and The Wire (to watch). 1) Crime Story was a GREAT sh…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497892007-06-20T18:49:30.548ZBrianLindenmuthhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianL
1) Crime Story was a GREAT show.<br />
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2) Homicide is one of my favorites. Even when the cast got prettified it was still good. To this day I still hold a grudge against NYPD Blue because it was a watered down soap opera that beat the snot out of Homicide in the ratings.<br />
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You want to know the chief difference between the two. The way that they handled death.<br />
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When Det. Bobby Simone died it was in a hospital and filmed with a soft focus and ambient light and there was sappy music playing in the…
1) Crime Story was a GREAT show.<br />
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2) Homicide is one of my favorites. Even when the cast got prettified it was still good. To this day I still hold a grudge against NYPD Blue because it was a watered down soap opera that beat the snot out of Homicide in the ratings.<br />
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You want to know the chief difference between the two. The way that they handled death.<br />
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When Det. Bobby Simone died it was in a hospital and filmed with a soft focus and ambient light and there was sappy music playing in the background and it was like a soap opera. Make me want to puke.<br />
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Now Homicide handled death differently. Crocetti kills himself, his partner renegades an investigation, the brass refuses him a full honor guard because like most bureaucrats they are petty. The detective investigating the death is under considerable pressure to call it a suicide but he just cant do it because he's "Big Man" and Big Man always plays by the rules. Pembelton, as an extension of earlier episodes, wont attend the funeral because he's lost his faith in God (let alone the simple fact they let a major character lose his faith in God -- brilliant) and causes further tension in the squad.<br />
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Then the emotional roller coaster starts. The scene where the ME report comes back positive. Steve's name gets changed from Red to Black on The Board. Lewis loses it and collapses and Big Man is the one to support him while he loses it. The funeral. And that closing, haunting image of Pempleton saying F--- You to the brass and saluting the hearse as it rolls past the station house while he is wearing his uniform.<br />
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Brilliant -- the best hour of television EVER.<br />
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3) I recommend the trade paperback of Homicide that came out last year. It has pictures in the middle and new afterwords. There are pictures of The Board and of all the cast members with their real life counter parts. I never saw "Hill Street Blue…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497702007-06-20T17:36:53.287ZChrista M. Millerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/christammiller
I never saw "Hill Street Blues." My impression was that, like "NYPD Blues," it focused on some of the more salacious aspects of working in a PD. True to life, in some ways, but less about the cases? Like I said, I never saw it.<br />
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By "it" I just meant the spate of police procedurals in existence today, the way they are written and filmed. But maybe that can be traced to both shows!
I never saw "Hill Street Blues." My impression was that, like "NYPD Blues," it focused on some of the more salacious aspects of working in a PD. True to life, in some ways, but less about the cases? Like I said, I never saw it.<br />
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By "it" I just meant the spate of police procedurals in existence today, the way they are written and filmed. But maybe that can be traced to both shows! I heard excellent things abou…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497672007-06-20T17:30:54.018ZChrista M. Millerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/christammiller
I heard excellent things about Boomtown, but never got a chance to see it. My mother loved Barney Miller when it was on - she too said it was the most authentic (had uncles and cousins in the NYPD).<br />
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Has anyone seen the one-season Denis Leary cop show, "The Job"?
I heard excellent things about Boomtown, but never got a chance to see it. My mother loved Barney Miller when it was on - she too said it was the most authentic (had uncles and cousins in the NYPD).<br />
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Has anyone seen the one-season Denis Leary cop show, "The Job"? We watched some of Boomtown.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497532007-06-20T17:15:16.479ZSandra Ruttanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Sandramre
We watched some of Boomtown. Actually, another show I thought was going to be great was Robbery Homicide - Tom Sizemore I think it was in the lead. And that disappeared in a blink. And Boomtown was within a year or so of that. And Deadline. It got to the point where I wouldn't watch a show until it was in it's second season, in case I really got hooked and it got yanked. I started to think I was jinxing the programs.<br />
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For me, the best cop show on TV is <i>The Wire</i>. I love it. David Simon,…
We watched some of Boomtown. Actually, another show I thought was going to be great was Robbery Homicide - Tom Sizemore I think it was in the lead. And that disappeared in a blink. And Boomtown was within a year or so of that. And Deadline. It got to the point where I wouldn't watch a show until it was in it's second season, in case I really got hooked and it got yanked. I started to think I was jinxing the programs.<br />
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For me, the best cop show on TV is <i>The Wire</i>. I love it. David Simon, and doing more what I think he wanted to do with <i>Homicide</i>. I understand he isn't a fan of network television because of the restrictions they put on it. <i>The Wire</i> is pure genius. Of course, with Pelecanos, Lehane and Richard Price all contributing to the writing team, how can it not be? Boomtown. Wow, my wife and I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497092007-06-20T14:40:40.859ZJack Getzehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
Boomtown. Wow, my wife and I both loved that show.
Boomtown. Wow, my wife and I both loved that show. BTW, for those of you who are…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:497072007-06-20T14:34:41.474ZDon Andersonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/r316jc
BTW, for those of you who are fans of Homicide, you really owe it to yourself to read the book by David Simon on which the series was based. It's a terrific read.
BTW, for those of you who are fans of Homicide, you really owe it to yourself to read the book by David Simon on which the series was based. It's a terrific read. Had never heard of Crime Stor…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:496922007-06-20T13:18:16.994ZSteven Torreshttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StevenT
Had never heard of Crime Story, but I'll be on the lookout for it. I always thought HILL STREET BLUES was the one to start it all. I suppose it depends on what "it" is. Haven't seen Homicide either. Got a lot of watching to do.
Had never heard of Crime Story, but I'll be on the lookout for it. I always thought HILL STREET BLUES was the one to start it all. I suppose it depends on what "it" is. Haven't seen Homicide either. Got a lot of watching to do. Homicide is still my favorite…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-20:537324:Comment:496742007-06-20T11:21:27.337ZJack Getzehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
Homicide is still my favorite cop show. Rarely miss a rerun. Maybe I should buy the DVD, huh?
Homicide is still my favorite cop show. Rarely miss a rerun. Maybe I should buy the DVD, huh?