Kirkus Sells Reviews - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T09:39:50Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:71447?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A71469&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-13:537324:Comment:1145212008-01-13T21:49:43.020ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I agree.
I agree. Very interesting. I know that…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-13:537324:Comment:1144632008-01-13T19:20:24.421ZEDWARD C MORGANhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ECMorgan
Very interesting. I know that in our paper, we'll occasionally have someone buy an advertorial and use the same fonts we do... however, it must be clearly marked "paid advertising" and they cannot say "as reported in The Progress" or something similar.<br />
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It is disturbing when you mix what is essentially paid advertising with legitimate editorial content.
Very interesting. I know that in our paper, we'll occasionally have someone buy an advertorial and use the same fonts we do... however, it must be clearly marked "paid advertising" and they cannot say "as reported in The Progress" or something similar.<br />
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It is disturbing when you mix what is essentially paid advertising with legitimate editorial content. I understand they are publish…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-13:537324:Comment:1144502008-01-13T18:39:46.757ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I understand they are published separately and under a slightly different heading. Their usefulness lies in the fact that they can be quoted as "Kirkus" reviews.
I understand they are published separately and under a slightly different heading. Their usefulness lies in the fact that they can be quoted as "Kirkus" reviews. I'm bad. I rarely read review…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-13:537324:Comment:1144042008-01-13T15:08:51.487ZEDWARD C MORGANhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ECMorgan
I'm bad. I rarely read reviews. Sigh.<br />
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So I'm wondering, are these paid-for reviews along the lines of an "advertorial" in a newspaper or magazine and are they clearly noted as paid reviews?
I'm bad. I rarely read reviews. Sigh.<br />
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So I'm wondering, are these paid-for reviews along the lines of an "advertorial" in a newspaper or magazine and are they clearly noted as paid reviews? I completely agree with I. J.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-12:537324:Comment:1142072008-01-12T18:49:43.188ZFelicia Donovanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/FeliciaDonovan
I completely agree with I. J. on this. It negates any legitimacy to pay to have a book reviewed. Regardless of whether Kirkus uses a different forum or not to publish these reviews, it's tainted and dimishes the remaining few dregs of respect I had for them.
I completely agree with I. J. on this. It negates any legitimacy to pay to have a book reviewed. Regardless of whether Kirkus uses a different forum or not to publish these reviews, it's tainted and dimishes the remaining few dregs of respect I had for them. Wishing you all the best in t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-12:537324:Comment:1140632008-01-12T15:28:35.242ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Wishing you all the best in the future. And remember to check Preditors and Editors, and address yourself to agents listed with AAR.
Wishing you all the best in the future. And remember to check Preditors and Editors, and address yourself to agents listed with AAR. Hello, I'm new here, and ma…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-01-12:537324:Comment:1139632008-01-12T06:43:13.004ZJ. Shanon Roggenbuckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/runic7
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Hello, I'm new here, and may only offer this reply. I would like to say thank you for you honest opinions regarding Kirkus Discoveries. You have saved me a great deal of money and perhaps embarrassment.<br />
My book has only been published since Monday of this week, in which I went through Xlibris Publishing for many reasons, such as copyediting, their affiliation with Random House, and they offer more help in Marketing than some.<br />
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I ordered each of their…
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Hello, I'm new here, and may only offer this reply. I would like to say thank you for you honest opinions regarding Kirkus Discoveries. You have saved me a great deal of money and perhaps embarrassment.<br />
My book has only been published since Monday of this week, in which I went through Xlibris Publishing for many reasons, such as copyediting, their affiliation with Random House, and they offer more help in Marketing than some.<br />
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I ordered each of their services that I wanted individually saving close to $400.00 regarding their second to the last best package. I will have to say they chose to <b>give</b> me that package anyway. Now I'm wondering what I'm going to do with so many business cards and book marks, not to mention around 5 posters (I <i>figure I can get rid of two or three of these in a couple of bookstores and a coffeeshop here in a Local Author Ad campaign</i>). They also offer very nice books in both paperback and hardback. Among a few other things, I also just ordered simply the "Newswire" as my marketing service.<br />
Any way, one of the Marketers there at Xlibris called this week asking me if I wanted to advertise <b><u>"BIG"</u></b>.<br />
He then brought up the Kirkus Discoveries method, as I didn't have the money Xlibris is willing to do all of this for in my bank account at that time, we agreed to discuss it furthter at the beginning of next week. I have to say, he was good, good, good, about telling me to do my homework.<br />
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I honestly do love my book. I learned so much while researching for it, and every bit of the work good, bad, or indifferent is my own.<br />
Those who have read the manuscripts prior to publishing have offered mixed reviews on it, some love it, some say it's a little over their head (<i>I'm an average thinker so I don't really understand this comment</i>), and within my predominantly Fundamentally Christian Community, of those individuals who read it, they were uncomfortable with it because they felt I was honoring Earth too much and I guess, as one put it, I sort of slandered the Lord because apparently, He excludes all other religious communities (<i>please understand <u><b>I'm simply repeating</b></u> what I was told. <u><b>I'm not trying to be insulting</b></u> to anyone or what they may or may not believe. The book itself offers a great acceptance of all on Earth and in the Universe, and Mother Earth, as a Life nurturing planet in and of herself is pretty nonbias and shows no prejudice toward any living thing. Not to mention, she's chosen as the book's story teller</i>.) The only consistant report that I got was "Yes, it's very publishable."<br />
The Marketer offering Kirkus stated that he felt it has very great potential and Kirkus is the plan I needed to grab up.<br />
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After comparing prices between Xlibris working with Kirkus and Kirkus alone, and also reading what others, be they professional or just an ordinary reader, I have decided I should let my book stand on it's own merit. I knew it was a gamble when I chose this route.<br />
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But again, I do thank you. Your input is far more valuable than you may realize.<br />
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Shanon I generally tend to avoid rev…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-09-13:537324:Comment:720842007-09-13T16:46:12.256ZAyohttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Evedallas
I generally tend to avoid reviews by Kirkus. I personally think that any review that has been paid for is not worth the papet that it is written on. What is the point because you won't be giving your honest opinion.
I generally tend to avoid reviews by Kirkus. I personally think that any review that has been paid for is not worth the papet that it is written on. What is the point because you won't be giving your honest opinion. Ah, Thanks all! Especially to…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-09-12:537324:Comment:717412007-09-12T13:36:51.085ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Ah, Thanks all! Especially to Harry and to Sandra, whose good sense as always reassured me. And I don't think for a minute that Sarah would review or cite one of those reviews. Apparently it is easy to keep them separated. Except perhaps on such sites as Amazon and Barnes&Noble.<br />
But I have lost my respect for Kirkus. Heaven forbid PW should get involved in this. As I've said, I love reviews. They are just about the only signs of approval I get these days. And that probably accounts for my…
Ah, Thanks all! Especially to Harry and to Sandra, whose good sense as always reassured me. And I don't think for a minute that Sarah would review or cite one of those reviews. Apparently it is easy to keep them separated. Except perhaps on such sites as Amazon and Barnes&Noble.<br />
But I have lost my respect for Kirkus. Heaven forbid PW should get involved in this. As I've said, I love reviews. They are just about the only signs of approval I get these days. And that probably accounts for my reaction above. Interesting about that site -…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-09-11:537324:Comment:715612007-09-11T23:12:59.117ZSandra Ruttanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Sandramre
Interesting about that site - thanks Barbara! What a handy tool that can be.<br />
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I suppose the debate could be what consititutes conflict of interest, and for each person the line will shift. I used to agonize over it. Then, to some degree, I got over it. I realized that if people were going to view me as suspect they always would, whether it was fair or not. Of course, that happens to us with short story submissions as well, which may be why I reached some level of peace over it. There's only one…
Interesting about that site - thanks Barbara! What a handy tool that can be.<br />
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I suppose the debate could be what consititutes conflict of interest, and for each person the line will shift. I used to agonize over it. Then, to some degree, I got over it. I realized that if people were going to view me as suspect they always would, whether it was fair or not. Of course, that happens to us with short story submissions as well, which may be why I reached some level of peace over it. There's only one way to ensure we don't do anything anyone thinks is biased - kill the ezine. Otherwise, I just worry about whether or not I can look myself in the mirror at night.