Success And Failure - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T11:41:17Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:91068?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A91078&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSay nuffin' until the check h…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-29:537324:Comment:987582007-11-29T15:26:22.110ZTom Barclayhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MacCZpilot
Say nuffin' until the check has cleared the bank. Then we want to hear everything, man!
Say nuffin' until the check has cleared the bank. Then we want to hear everything, man! Fingers are crossed, at least…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-29:537324:Comment:987282007-11-29T13:09:15.051ZJana Oliverhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JanaOliver
Fingers are crossed, at least not when I'm typing.
Fingers are crossed, at least not when I'm typing. Can't spill the beans yet - b…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-29:537324:Comment:986182007-11-29T05:17:09.538ZGrant McKenziehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/McKenzie
Can't spill the beans yet - but it looks like I might've cracked it :-)<br />
2008 is going to be a fantastic year.
Can't spill the beans yet - but it looks like I might've cracked it :-)<br />
2008 is going to be a fantastic year. Grant's example is a particul…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-13:537324:Comment:926782007-11-13T17:42:29.633ZElizabeth Zelvinhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/lizzelvin
Grant's example is a particularly good one, but the rave rejection is not unusual. I kept telling myself, "Don't quit five minutes before the miracle" as I sent one more query and another and another....In the end, I got my miracle, but the five minutes lasted five years. (Or 55 years, depending on how I count.) It takes talent, persistence, and luck, and the only one we can do anything about is persistence. And that probably answers the original question, ie what makes us hang in there--it's…
Grant's example is a particularly good one, but the rave rejection is not unusual. I kept telling myself, "Don't quit five minutes before the miracle" as I sent one more query and another and another....In the end, I got my miracle, but the five minutes lasted five years. (Or 55 years, depending on how I count.) It takes talent, persistence, and luck, and the only one we can do anything about is persistence. And that probably answers the original question, ie what makes us hang in there--it's the only hint of a way out of feeling totally powerless. Success is elusive because it depends on luck--often of the total fluke persuasion. Liz You're within inches of a sal…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-11:537324:Comment:918382007-11-11T03:30:23.984ZTom Barclayhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MacCZpilot
You're within inches of a sale, Grant.<br />
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Get this thing out and about!! Multiple simultaneous submissions are perfectly fair these days (see Dr. Anne Mini and her web site, 'Author! Author!') - DO NOT stop now!
You're within inches of a sale, Grant.<br />
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Get this thing out and about!! Multiple simultaneous submissions are perfectly fair these days (see Dr. Anne Mini and her web site, 'Author! Author!') - DO NOT stop now! "A list crammed with younger…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-09:537324:Comment:911892007-11-09T01:02:35.026ZJana Oliverhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JanaOliver
"A list crammed with younger male suspense writers..."<br />
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(Please allow for tongue-in-cheek humor) Have you considered a sex change? Or perhaps a pseudonym that sounds vaguely female? (How ironic). Now if you could pass yourself off as a 15 year old homeschooler I'm sure you'll get a contract. It worked for Chris Paolini and he didn't even have to change his name.<br />
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When you make the NY Times list, go into your bathroom, close the door and shout at the top of your lungs, "Boy did you screw up,…
"A list crammed with younger male suspense writers..."<br />
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(Please allow for tongue-in-cheek humor) Have you considered a sex change? Or perhaps a pseudonym that sounds vaguely female? (How ironic). Now if you could pass yourself off as a 15 year old homeschooler I'm sure you'll get a contract. It worked for Chris Paolini and he didn't even have to change his name.<br />
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When you make the NY Times list, go into your bathroom, close the door and shout at the top of your lungs, "Boy did you screw up, buddy!" Then come back out, gracious as ever, and enjoy the rest of your career. LOL, thanks, guys.
I definite…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-09:537324:Comment:911872007-11-09T00:49:54.795ZGrant McKenziehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/McKenzie
LOL, thanks, guys.<br />
I definitely seem to be the master of the oxymoron: positive rejection.
LOL, thanks, guys.<br />
I definitely seem to be the master of the oxymoron: positive rejection. Grant
Ouch. That had to hurt.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-09:537324:Comment:911842007-11-09T00:21:56.472ZJana Oliverhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JanaOliver
Grant<br />
Ouch. That had to hurt. "Real energy" and "fantastic storyteller". Great input even if you didn't get a contract. I agree with the general sentiment -- you're close, guy! Real close. Send that back out NOW.
Grant<br />
Ouch. That had to hurt. "Real energy" and "fantastic storyteller". Great input even if you didn't get a contract. I agree with the general sentiment -- you're close, guy! Real close. Send that back out NOW. Boy, does that one suck, Gran…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-08:537324:Comment:911232007-11-08T20:53:05.066ZJack Getzehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
Boy, does that one suck, Grant. I would've preferred a "doesn't meet our current needs" letter to this. But this letter also tells me that the one "yes" you need is right around the corner. Keep on keepin' on! It's coming.
Boy, does that one suck, Grant. I would've preferred a "doesn't meet our current needs" letter to this. But this letter also tells me that the one "yes" you need is right around the corner. Keep on keepin' on! It's coming. Maybe rejection slips like th…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-11-08:537324:Comment:911202007-11-08T20:33:49.317ZGrant McKenziehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/McKenzie
Maybe rejection slips like the one I received this morning from a major publisher:<br />
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"Thanks so much for letting me see this. I think McKenzie is a fantastic storyteller – he really gripped me from start to finish. The dialogue is great and this does have the same polish and assurance of a young Dennis Lehane. There’s real energy and purpose to it and I think he has such promise.<br />
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The awful thing from my perspective is that I have a list crammed full of younger male suspense writers and it is…
Maybe rejection slips like the one I received this morning from a major publisher:<br />
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"Thanks so much for letting me see this. I think McKenzie is a fantastic storyteller – he really gripped me from start to finish. The dialogue is great and this does have the same polish and assurance of a young Dennis Lehane. There’s real energy and purpose to it and I think he has such promise.<br />
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The awful thing from my perspective is that I have a list crammed full of younger male suspense writers and it is just so hard to find space for another one. I have given this a lot of thought, but ultimately have to pass just from the standpoint of shape of the list. Really sorry – it hurts to pass on something this good!"<br />
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Argh! What do you do but keep on keepin on.