Beta Readers - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T09:37:35Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/beta-readers?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A349875&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWhatever works for you. I al…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3498932012-07-19T14:51:32.558ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Whatever works for you. I also used to have a good beta reader, a fellow writer who was an excellent copy editor, even if he didn't always get it (his field was SF). My other current reader is so involved in the story that she is continuously rewriting my plot as she imagines it should be. Amusing, but not always helpful. :)</p>
<p>Of my publishers' editors, only one has been good. Then she turned over the subsequent book to a copy editor, but that lady was also excellent. The rest…</p>
<p>Whatever works for you. I also used to have a good beta reader, a fellow writer who was an excellent copy editor, even if he didn't always get it (his field was SF). My other current reader is so involved in the story that she is continuously rewriting my plot as she imagines it should be. Amusing, but not always helpful. :)</p>
<p>Of my publishers' editors, only one has been good. Then she turned over the subsequent book to a copy editor, but that lady was also excellent. The rest have been a nuisance.</p> My first agent was a good bet…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3498892012-07-19T13:57:06.013ZEric Christophersonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/datahog
<p>My first agent was a good beta reader, but then he'd started out as an editor. I have writer friends who I send sections of work for specific types of feedback, but I've never asked anyone to read and comment on the whole thing.</p>
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<p>My first agent was a good beta reader, but then he'd started out as an editor. I have writer friends who I send sections of work for specific types of feedback, but I've never asked anyone to read and comment on the whole thing.</p>
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<p></p> I'm not paying. Period. I h…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3497822012-07-19T13:29:06.799ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>I'm not paying. Period. I have a Ph.D. in English and if that doesn't give me qualifications to edit, I've wasted my time at the university.</p>
<p>I'm not paying. Period. I have a Ph.D. in English and if that doesn't give me qualifications to edit, I've wasted my time at the university.</p> I don't have the dough to pay…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3497812012-07-19T13:08:14.092ZJonathan Francescohttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonathanFrancesco
<p>I don't have the dough to pay them. So I'll have to rely on regular beta-readers, for now. Maybe if I ever become truly successful, I'll have the money for something fancier. </p>
<p>I don't have the dough to pay them. So I'll have to rely on regular beta-readers, for now. Maybe if I ever become truly successful, I'll have the money for something fancier. </p> After you pay them, they're n…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3498812012-07-19T12:47:19.375ZBenjamin Sobieckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
<p>After you pay them, they're no longer called beta readers. They're called editors.</p>
<p>After you pay them, they're no longer called beta readers. They're called editors.</p> My Beta readers haven't done…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3498752012-07-19T10:46:24.908ZJack Getzehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
<p>My Beta readers haven't done their job well the last two books (too over-looking of faults), so I've been forced to pay a real editor. I consider these two different types. I don't pay Beta readers. I either read something for them, or perhaps buy them dinner. Real editors I pay and expect a lot more, and recently had my eyes opened (about some of my shortcomings, and my Beta readers) by a very successful, clever, and astute writer/editor named…</p>
<p>My Beta readers haven't done their job well the last two books (too over-looking of faults), so I've been forced to pay a real editor. I consider these two different types. I don't pay Beta readers. I either read something for them, or perhaps buy them dinner. Real editors I pay and expect a lot more, and recently had my eyes opened (about some of my shortcomings, and my Beta readers) by a very successful, clever, and astute writer/editor named <a href="http://www.lorrainebodger.com/" target="_blank">Lorraine Bodger</a>. I recommend her highly. Not cheap, but I've seen worse, especially in New York.</p>
<p>I was in an online group with other writers twice, but I was the only one who kept up and we folded. The more people, the more reading and work you have to do in order to earn your own critique. I'd love to find one other writer to work back and forth with. But it's hard. I write every day and I haven't found anyone who's both insightful and interested in keeping up month after month.</p> Pay beta readers...?!? Is tha…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3496122012-07-19T08:40:22.724ZminervaKhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
<p>Pay beta readers...?!? Is that common?</p>
<p>Pay beta readers...?!? Is that common?</p> I think the question is: Are…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3496092012-07-19T03:45:34.712ZBenjamin Sobieckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
<p>I think the question is: Are you willing to pay for a good reader?</p>
<p>I think the question is: Are you willing to pay for a good reader?</p> It all depends on how much yo…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3497062012-07-18T21:54:34.008ZBrian Hoffmanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianHoffman
<p>It all depends on how much you're willing to pay. The best person I've used is Allen Renzler. <a href="http://alanrinzler.com/" target="_blank">Click Here!</a> Allen is great to work with but were talking big bucks.</p>
<p>It all depends on how much you're willing to pay. The best person I've used is Allen Renzler. <a href="http://alanrinzler.com/" target="_blank">Click Here!</a> Allen is great to work with but were talking big bucks.</p> Thanks, Jonathan.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3497052012-07-18T21:10:58.321ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Thanks, Jonathan.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jonathan.</p>