Books Being Stolen Like Jewelry on Amazon! - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T08:03:48Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/books-being-stolen-like?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A295790&feed=yes&xn_auth=noStacy, it is critical to our…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-22:537324:Comment:2959062011-06-22T12:10:08.413ZMary McFarlandhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MaryMcFarland
Stacy, it is critical to our survival, actually. There's such a rush to self-publish, to give parts or all of our work away (freemiums), to offer .99 cent copies, that to have something stolen is more than simple theft. Again, I deeply appreciate your post.
Stacy, it is critical to our survival, actually. There's such a rush to self-publish, to give parts or all of our work away (freemiums), to offer .99 cent copies, that to have something stolen is more than simple theft. Again, I deeply appreciate your post. You guys are so welcome for t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-22:537324:Comment:2958792011-06-22T06:25:03.202ZStacyhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StacyDeanne
<p>You guys are so welcome for the info! Whenever I learn of something important in the industry I try to spread it around. This is very serious and people need to be aware of it.</p>
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<p>Best Wishes!</p>
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<p>You guys are so welcome for the info! Whenever I learn of something important in the industry I try to spread it around. This is very serious and people need to be aware of it.</p>
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<p>Best Wishes!</p>
<p> </p> This is the first time I've h…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-21:537324:Comment:2958732011-06-21T23:35:10.341ZBenjamin Sobieckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
This is the first time I've heard of this being a real problem. It was always theoretical. Thanks for posting.
This is the first time I've heard of this being a real problem. It was always theoretical. Thanks for posting. Yes, Pepper. I'm thinking ab…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-21:537324:Comment:2957972011-06-21T14:19:35.619ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Yes, Pepper. I'm thinking about this even now. It used to be that the very existence of the text (dated) in your own files constituted proof that you owned the book/story. This may still work. I hesitate to go through the copyright process, and not just because it costs money, but also because it's a hassle.</p>
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<p>I assume my agent's office clarified my rights to two titles that were returned to me. Doubly confusing since various formats are still in print and on audio.</p>
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<p>Yes, Pepper. I'm thinking about this even now. It used to be that the very existence of the text (dated) in your own files constituted proof that you owned the book/story. This may still work. I hesitate to go through the copyright process, and not just because it costs money, but also because it's a hassle.</p>
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<p>I assume my agent's office clarified my rights to two titles that were returned to me. Doubly confusing since various formats are still in print and on audio.</p>
<p>As for this being costly for Amazon: I don't see it. Any author who claims he/she has been ripped off can alert them and have the offending title removed. Furthermore, uploading works may trigger a warning in the system, if the same book already exists. Amazon's people will just have to do some checking before they run a new item.</p>
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<p>I think that is already being done when Amazon uploads the novel. That process is not automatic and requires in my case several weeks of back-and-forth e-mails. Things may be different when authors upload books themselves through an automated system. Maybe that's where warnings need to be posted.</p>
<p> </p> Registering your copyright wi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-21:537324:Comment:2957742011-06-21T13:20:26.138ZPepper Smithhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Reefrunner
<p>Registering your copyright with the US Copyright Office is the only way you have any real legal standing with this. And yes, you can copyright electronic files.</p>
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<p>Oddly enough, when my current publisher went to put my second book on Kindle, Amazon insisted that they didn't have the rights to it, since it had been previously published by another publisher. We had to show them the signed contract from my current publisher and the rights release letter from my previous publisher…</p>
<p>Registering your copyright with the US Copyright Office is the only way you have any real legal standing with this. And yes, you can copyright electronic files.</p>
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<p>Oddly enough, when my current publisher went to put my second book on Kindle, Amazon insisted that they didn't have the rights to it, since it had been previously published by another publisher. We had to show them the signed contract from my current publisher and the rights release letter from my previous publisher before they would put the book in Kindle format.</p>
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<p>I do think that Amazon opened the floodgates, though, and that they weren't as prepared for the consequences as they thought they were. Copyright registration isn't cheap, which makes it less than attractive to someone who's self-publishing to Kindle, but if you register it, you'll have possibly a greater chance of getting Amazon to do something about the violation.</p> Stacy, thanks for the heads u…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-21:537324:Comment:2957902011-06-21T12:50:23.654ZMary McFarlandhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MaryMcFarland
<p>Stacy, thanks for the heads up. I agree: this was going to happen. There are no copyright laws in place in the ether, none that effectively protect authors like your friend. The laws that apply to print, put in place when the printing press was invented, are still being revised to catch up with the Internet.</p>
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<p>Since the law doesn't adequately protect digital copyright or provide an economic means for us to pursue digital fraudsters, Amazon has no legal compunction to act. …</p>
<p>Stacy, thanks for the heads up. I agree: this was going to happen. There are no copyright laws in place in the ether, none that effectively protect authors like your friend. The laws that apply to print, put in place when the printing press was invented, are still being revised to catch up with the Internet.</p>
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<p>Since the law doesn't adequately protect digital copyright or provide an economic means for us to pursue digital fraudsters, Amazon has no legal compunction to act. But they will have to find a way to put up digital fences to stop this theft. The cost would be astronomical, not that Big A can't afford it. The question is: will they take the lead and do the right thing, however costly, as I.J. suggests, or will they wait and see what others do? </p>
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<p>Meantime, I appreciate the info.</p> Yes, I've heard about this. I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-20:537324:Comment:2957122011-06-20T21:10:45.188ZEric Christophersonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/datahog
Yes, I've heard about this. It's spammers essentially. I hope Amazon acts quickly. My sales are way down, at least partly due to the deluge of fake and stolen content.
Yes, I've heard about this. It's spammers essentially. I hope Amazon acts quickly. My sales are way down, at least partly due to the deluge of fake and stolen content. I suppose copyright protectio…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-06-20:537324:Comment:2956752011-06-20T13:28:07.389ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I suppose copyright protection becomes crucial again. However, in this case, Amazon really needs to clean up its act. Selling stolen goods is against the law.
I suppose copyright protection becomes crucial again. However, in this case, Amazon really needs to clean up its act. Selling stolen goods is against the law.