Excerpts at the end of ebooks - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T11:30:16Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/excerpts-at-the-end-of-ebooks?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A372138&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'll stipulate on the Tequila…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-15:537324:Comment:3724452013-05-15T00:38:56.716ZLinton Robinsonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LintonRobinson
<p>I'll stipulate on the Tequila</p>
<p>Can't wait to take a look</p>
<p>I'll stipulate on the Tequila</p>
<p>Can't wait to take a look</p> Like the politicians say, the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-15:537324:Comment:3723892013-05-15T00:31:58.535ZSusanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Susan
<p>Like the politicians say, the real "poll" is whoever gets elected. Why bother with polls? People lie to pollsters. The best poll is ... book sales.</p>
<p>For that matter, Lin, why worry about what other people say? Do your thing. If I worried about what other people were saying, I'd've never made it too .... well, 39 and counting ... :)</p>
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<p>Like the politicians say, the real "poll" is whoever gets elected. Why bother with polls? People lie to pollsters. The best poll is ... book sales.</p>
<p>For that matter, Lin, why worry about what other people say? Do your thing. If I worried about what other people were saying, I'd've never made it too .... well, 39 and counting ... :)</p>
<p></p> Knew you'd like it. No tequil…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-15:537324:Comment:3721442013-05-15T00:28:19.380ZSusanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Susan
<p>Knew you'd like it. No tequila tho ...</p>
<p>Knew you'd like it. No tequila tho ...</p> I think most of us pick up su…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3723862013-05-14T14:07:03.734ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>I think most of us pick up such feedback from comments on reader sites. I've seen a few (fewer than 10, I think), but I'm not often on such sites.</p>
<p>I think most of us pick up such feedback from comments on reader sites. I've seen a few (fewer than 10, I think), but I'm not often on such sites.</p> I understand that you want 'h…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3722972013-05-14T08:07:53.178ZMartyn V. Halmhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MartynVHalm
<p>I understand that you want 'hard evidence' that adding sample chapters is detrimental to ebooks.</p>
<p>I used to add the first chapter of Peccadillo to Reprobate (and that was after Peccadillo was finished, so there was no 'waiting period' for anyone reading the sample to read the whole book). However, there was a discussion on Kindleboards, where both authors and readers chimed in where the overwhelming majority was against adding sample chapters for the reasons I stated before: unlike a…</p>
<p>I understand that you want 'hard evidence' that adding sample chapters is detrimental to ebooks.</p>
<p>I used to add the first chapter of Peccadillo to Reprobate (and that was after Peccadillo was finished, so there was no 'waiting period' for anyone reading the sample to read the whole book). However, there was a discussion on Kindleboards, where both authors and readers chimed in where the overwhelming majority was against adding sample chapters for the reasons I stated before: unlike a paperback, which requires a visit to an (online) bookshop to buy the sequel, an e-reader often has a built-in internet connection that allows you to visit the retailer and download a sample or the whole book in a matter of seconds, making a sample in the back of a book redundant. Furthermore, in paid books, readers expect the end of the story around the 95/100% mark, so they (might) feel cheated if the story ends at 80%, followed by 20% sample chapters and back matter.</p>
<p>So, you can transport a practice intended for paperback books (I rarely found sample chapters in hardcover books) to ebooks, or you can adjust to the new medium and just add some pitches and URL links to aid the reader to buy the next book in the series.</p>
<p>Your choice.</p>
<p>Me, I only add sample chapters to my free short stories, since I figure they are loss leaders intended to interest people in the main feature, my novels. I don't add them to my novels anymore, because I assume that readers who read Reprobate know where to get Peccadillo.</p>
<p>I'll leave it at that, if you don't mind, because I'd rather put my energy towards writing my books than convincing you about changing business practices.</p>
<p>I think you can find more opinions by googling 'sample chapter in e-books'.</p> Good question.
Start with: W…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3721942013-05-14T07:11:27.736ZLinton Robinsonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LintonRobinson
<p>Good question.</p>
<p>Start with: What is the difference between "a reader" and "readers".</p>
<p>That's what I'm trying to get at here. In my experience when people cite mass opinions, and you ask where they got that information and they don't tell you, or get upset, there isn't any real information.</p>
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<p>Again, I don't downrate your opinion or attempt to argue with it.</p>
<p>I'm asking if anybody has any statistics or polls or anything about what readers feel about this. A…</p>
<p>Good question.</p>
<p>Start with: What is the difference between "a reader" and "readers".</p>
<p>That's what I'm trying to get at here. In my experience when people cite mass opinions, and you ask where they got that information and they don't tell you, or get upset, there isn't any real information.</p>
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<p>Again, I don't downrate your opinion or attempt to argue with it.</p>
<p>I'm asking if anybody has any statistics or polls or anything about what readers feel about this. A dozen people here have said that "readers don't like free chapters", but not a single one is aying where they got that information. And I think you know that "well I'm a reader and I have have one person's opinion" doesn't ansser that.</p>
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<p>Which wouldn't even be worth pushing for if it weren't something i see so much of. I'm stating to question anything people say about reader tastes...and I almost never get anything to back up these statements of taste...which are really important to writers trying to figure out what to do.</p> I'm a reader. I stated my opi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3721392013-05-14T02:33:46.793ZSusanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Susan
<p>I'm a reader. I stated my opinion. What's so hard to understand?</p>
<p>I'm a reader. I stated my opinion. What's so hard to understand?</p> We're all readers, Susan. Bu…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3722962013-05-14T01:41:22.238ZLinton Robinsonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LintonRobinson
<p>We're all readers, Susan. But "what readers like" discussed by writers goes a bit beyond that. And hopefully into "larger samples".</p>
<p>I don't you understand. I'm not arguing or putting down your opinion. I'm curious about this and asking for information. If there are polls or anything that show "what readers think about this" I'd love to see them.</p>
<p>Same goes for lots of other issues where I see "reader opinion" cited.</p>
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<p>We're all readers, Susan. But "what readers like" discussed by writers goes a bit beyond that. And hopefully into "larger samples".</p>
<p>I don't you understand. I'm not arguing or putting down your opinion. I'm curious about this and asking for information. If there are polls or anything that show "what readers think about this" I'd love to see them.</p>
<p>Same goes for lots of other issues where I see "reader opinion" cited.</p>
<p></p> Strippers and guns... my kind…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3721382013-05-14T01:38:29.260ZLinton Robinsonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LintonRobinson
<p>Strippers and guns... my kind of scenario.</p>
<p>Strippers and guns... my kind of scenario.</p> So grab a copy and write a re…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-05-14:537324:Comment:3721372013-05-14T00:23:55.769ZSusanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Susan
<p>So grab a copy and write a review ... :) Ya might like it, NYC strip clubs, a call girl in Paris, and back to New Orleans with a gun.</p>
<p>So grab a copy and write a review ... :) Ya might like it, NYC strip clubs, a call girl in Paris, and back to New Orleans with a gun.</p>