genre types? - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T20:19:40Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/genre-types?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A207013&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAll of your listed genres hav…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-13:537324:Comment:2070462009-07-13T03:05:11.103ZJackBludishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JackBludis
All of your listed genres have subsets, often hyphenated, or "extra" hyphenated, and all can be hyphenated with "historical," except historical, of course. Hard boiled-historical, historical-noir (I happen to believe that noir and hardboiled are generally different, although sometimes a story or book can be both.
All of your listed genres have subsets, often hyphenated, or "extra" hyphenated, and all can be hyphenated with "historical," except historical, of course. Hard boiled-historical, historical-noir (I happen to believe that noir and hardboiled are generally different, although sometimes a story or book can be both. Yes. Sub-genre labelling is V…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-12:537324:Comment:2070132009-07-12T15:44:13.638ZCiscleyhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ciscley
Yes. Sub-genre labelling is Very useful for finding a book I'll have a higher probability of enjoying. Otherwise I'm stuck just browsing titles and covers in the bookstore. (Which I do enjoy, but only when I don't know what I want to read. When I actually want to read a SPECIFIC thing, it's annoying as hell.)<br />
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And it's particularly useful when I'm at the library. Especially now that the employees at my local ones are rarely book geeks themselves. I remember being a kid and going up to the…
Yes. Sub-genre labelling is Very useful for finding a book I'll have a higher probability of enjoying. Otherwise I'm stuck just browsing titles and covers in the bookstore. (Which I do enjoy, but only when I don't know what I want to read. When I actually want to read a SPECIFIC thing, it's annoying as hell.)<br />
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And it's particularly useful when I'm at the library. Especially now that the employees at my local ones are rarely book geeks themselves. I remember being a kid and going up to the librarian and saying, "I want a book like..." and them just finding one for me. I thought they were geniuses, but really they just understood book categories and how to use the card catalog. Officially recognized by...?…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-12:537324:Comment:2069812009-07-12T06:59:08.048ZJodyhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Jody30
Officially recognized by...? :)<br />
I think as readers/writers/humans(!) we feel that we need some kinds of labels, but I think it's important that we don't hold onto them in any rigid sense. That said, if one -does- go into a genre/sub-genre with certain expectations, it's always fun to disrupt and decentre the expected structure thereof and make the reader think about their own complicity with the text. Personally, I prefer to keep everything under the umbrella of 'crime fiction', moving the…
Officially recognized by...? :)<br />
I think as readers/writers/humans(!) we feel that we need some kinds of labels, but I think it's important that we don't hold onto them in any rigid sense. That said, if one -does- go into a genre/sub-genre with certain expectations, it's always fun to disrupt and decentre the expected structure thereof and make the reader think about their own complicity with the text. Personally, I prefer to keep everything under the umbrella of 'crime fiction', moving the focus from transgressor to transgression.<br />
Maybe I should go back to my first point: "Officially recognized by...?" ;)<br />
Cheers,<br />
Jody. How about Tech-Mystery? That'…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-10:537324:Comment:2069212009-07-10T17:34:50.382ZJohnny Batchhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/KenMcConnell
How about Tech-Mystery? That's how I describe <i>Null_Pointer</i>, my novel about a programmer who investigates the death of a coworker only to find out that the man was killed through his computer. Death by code. It's a blend of programming and sleuthing that I have not seen before.
How about Tech-Mystery? That's how I describe <i>Null_Pointer</i>, my novel about a programmer who investigates the death of a coworker only to find out that the man was killed through his computer. Death by code. It's a blend of programming and sleuthing that I have not seen before. From my research, it seems li…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-09:537324:Comment:2067462009-07-09T00:12:51.394ZLisa Fernowhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LisaFernow
From my research, it seems like there are many competiting definitions, and I've even seen a book described two different ways in the same publisher's blurb ... let us know what you find out!
From my research, it seems like there are many competiting definitions, and I've even seen a book described two different ways in the same publisher's blurb ... let us know what you find out! Crimes in zoos? Crimes commit…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-08:537324:Comment:2067302009-07-08T20:17:03.065ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
Crimes in zoos? Crimes committed by zebras?
Crimes in zoos? Crimes committed by zebras? That sounds like an excellent…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-08:537324:Comment:2067122009-07-08T16:58:41.076ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
That sounds like an excellent distinction to me -- along with the fact that lines are blurring. The newer mysteries are more about people than plots. A great improvement to my mind from the mere puzzle-solving of the old mysteries.<br />
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And if this is true, then I'm writing literary mysteries -- especially in THE CONVICT'S SWORD. Still one reader on Amazon has already complained that he found the plotting too simple. No red herrings and no twisty surprises at the end. I personally don't care for…
That sounds like an excellent distinction to me -- along with the fact that lines are blurring. The newer mysteries are more about people than plots. A great improvement to my mind from the mere puzzle-solving of the old mysteries.<br />
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And if this is true, then I'm writing literary mysteries -- especially in THE CONVICT'S SWORD. Still one reader on Amazon has already complained that he found the plotting too simple. No red herrings and no twisty surprises at the end. I personally don't care for those. >Literary, to me, is a sty…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-08:537324:Comment:2066742009-07-08T14:25:37.087ZJ. E. Seymourhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JESeymour
>Literary, to me, is a style of writing that is not firmly definable and therefore doesn't belong in this list. Most publishers don't think 'genre' writing (using the word as they do) is NOT 'literary' writing, and vice versa. My opinion of this theory is not suitable to post here. When publishers declare something to be a certain 'genre' or whatever, their pov is completely marketing, they don't actually care what anything is.<<br /><br />
From what I've seen, publishers and agents do…
>Literary, to me, is a style of writing that is not firmly definable and therefore doesn't belong in this list. Most publishers don't think 'genre' writing (using the word as they do) is NOT 'literary' writing, and vice versa. My opinion of this theory is not suitable to post here. When publishers declare something to be a certain 'genre' or whatever, their pov is completely marketing, they don't actually care what anything is.<<br /><br />
From what I've seen, publishers and agents do not think genre writing is the same as literary writing. I heard a very simple definition of literary vs non-literary from an editor of a (literary) journal. Literary is anything that focuses on the "domestic" - the everyday, relationships, family, etc. Genre focuses on plot, what happened vs why. Does that make sense? Literary fiction tends to have less focus on plot, more on character. Genre focuses on the plot, to the point where it has to fit a certain "formula." I'm not sure this is entirely true, I think the line is blurring more and more, especially in crime fiction. However, "Literary" is still a category unto itself. You can have literary crime fiction - see "Billy Bathgate" for an example. Only 'cause I is not too brig…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-08:537324:Comment:2066622009-07-08T06:40:37.535ZminervaKhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Only 'cause I is not too bright....
Only 'cause I is not too bright.... Yessir, that's it. My attempt…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-07-07:537324:Comment:2066372009-07-07T23:32:24.169ZBenjamin Sobieckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
Yessir, that's it. My attempt at sub-genre tongue-in-cheek humor fell at bit flat.
Yessir, that's it. My attempt at sub-genre tongue-in-cheek humor fell at bit flat.