Is writer's block the right diagnosis? - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T12:17:10Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/is-writer-s-block-the-right-diagnosis?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A349851&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree with what the others…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3502832012-07-24T16:50:47.851ZJohn Doddshttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnDodds
<p>I agree with what the others are saying here. Maybe not classic writers block...characters have an annoying habit of wanting to go their own way, regardless of whether you've written a tight outline or not, for example. I tend not to outline partly for that reason (and others besides). I've ditched a novel or two for similar reasons to you. Basically, don't worry about it. It's all good learning. I like what one writer said (can't remember who)...if I don't want to know what happens next,…</p>
<p>I agree with what the others are saying here. Maybe not classic writers block...characters have an annoying habit of wanting to go their own way, regardless of whether you've written a tight outline or not, for example. I tend not to outline partly for that reason (and others besides). I've ditched a novel or two for similar reasons to you. Basically, don't worry about it. It's all good learning. I like what one writer said (can't remember who)...if I don't want to know what happens next, neither will my readers. So, it may be boredom as much as anything on your part, but sounds like you've worked out a way through. Every novel is a mix of enthusiastic rush, drudgery, confusion, renewed enthusiasm, stuckness, revelation, joy, passion, and every other emotion. Basically, don't sweat it!</p> I have found every time I'm s…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3496232012-07-19T21:43:59.847ZDavid DeLeehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DavidDeLee
<p>I have found every time I'm stuck, its because something is wrong with the story, either with a character (like you Brian) or the story is derailing from what I originally set out to do and wanted to say.</p>
<p><br/>Glad you worked it out. Good luck</p>
<p>I have found every time I'm stuck, its because something is wrong with the story, either with a character (like you Brian) or the story is derailing from what I originally set out to do and wanted to say.</p>
<p><br/>Glad you worked it out. Good luck</p> I think the old character was…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3496162012-07-19T16:11:34.989ZBrian Hoffmanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianHoffman
<p>I think the old character was worn out and wasn't talking to me any more. Maybe I should have moved on a long time ago. Maybe I lived with him too long and we fell out of love, like a marriage gone bad.</p>
<p>As soon as I made the decision to not write that book, at least at this time, my imagination took off. My new character is younger, more relevant to the times, and more upbeat. Maybe my new character is like having a new spouse.</p>
<p>I think he expresses what I want to say, now…</p>
<p>I think the old character was worn out and wasn't talking to me any more. Maybe I should have moved on a long time ago. Maybe I lived with him too long and we fell out of love, like a marriage gone bad.</p>
<p>As soon as I made the decision to not write that book, at least at this time, my imagination took off. My new character is younger, more relevant to the times, and more upbeat. Maybe my new character is like having a new spouse.</p>
<p>I think he expresses what I want to say, now five years later.</p> What gave you the sudden insi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-19:537324:Comment:3498782012-07-19T10:50:10.127ZJack Getzehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
<p>What gave you the sudden insight 13 days ago, Brian? You'd devoted so much time to this character, I'm curious what happened.</p>
<p>What gave you the sudden insight 13 days ago, Brian? You'd devoted so much time to this character, I'm curious what happened.</p> By the time I start anything,…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3498582012-07-18T20:05:46.927ZJonathan Francescohttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonathanFrancesco
<p>By the time I start anything, it usually has to really stir me. So I try to finish anything I get more than a few thousand words into. Right now, I definitely think my problem is the more cliche form of writer's block. lol</p>
<p>By the time I start anything, it usually has to really stir me. So I try to finish anything I get more than a few thousand words into. Right now, I definitely think my problem is the more cliche form of writer's block. lol</p> My characters stop talking to…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3497522012-07-18T19:02:10.692ZS.D. Skyehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/SDSkye
<p>My characters stop talking to me when I take the story line in a place they don't want to go. It's almost as if they're stomping their feet and screaming, "I'm not going there!" with their lips poked out. I've learned when there is too much of "me" in the story--meaning I'm controlling the story over my characters--I usually hit a road block until I step away for a while and listen. </p>
<p>My characters stop talking to me when I take the story line in a place they don't want to go. It's almost as if they're stomping their feet and screaming, "I'm not going there!" with their lips poked out. I've learned when there is too much of "me" in the story--meaning I'm controlling the story over my characters--I usually hit a road block until I step away for a while and listen. </p> Yes, you sure do need enthusi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3498512012-07-18T18:55:11.059ZJohn McFetridgehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
<p>Yes, you sure do need enthusiasm. And for me I had to realize that writing a book was done over a few stages - the initial enthusiasm, the tough slog in the middle where I think it's just a complete mess and will never work and then the end when it (sometimes) comes together.</p>
<p>I have certainly given up a few novels when I realized, as Brian says, that I was writing the wrong one.</p>
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<p>Yes, you sure do need enthusiasm. And for me I had to realize that writing a book was done over a few stages - the initial enthusiasm, the tough slog in the middle where I think it's just a complete mess and will never work and then the end when it (sometimes) comes together.</p>
<p>I have certainly given up a few novels when I realized, as Brian says, that I was writing the wrong one.</p>
<p> </p> Makes perfect sense. You hav…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-18:537324:Comment:3496972012-07-18T17:45:06.893ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Makes perfect sense. You have to feel enthusiastic about your project to keep up the pace. I'm very discipline-driven, and actually finished a trilogy that I soon lost interest in. A third of the way in, one of the minor characters, an unlikable one, pushed himself forward and demanded attention. The result was that I had an increasing number of chapters from his pov. The books got finished, but the character wasn't done. Result: he got his own book (THE SWORD MASTER), and I now have…</p>
<p>Makes perfect sense. You have to feel enthusiastic about your project to keep up the pace. I'm very discipline-driven, and actually finished a trilogy that I soon lost interest in. A third of the way in, one of the minor characters, an unlikable one, pushed himself forward and demanded attention. The result was that I had an increasing number of chapters from his pov. The books got finished, but the character wasn't done. Result: he got his own book (THE SWORD MASTER), and I now have to rewrite the trilogy for the other characters, removing most of his chapters again.</p>