John Sargent for Macmillan: - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T15:19:18Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/john-sargent-for-macmillan?feed=yes&xn_auth=noUmm, quite right. No idea whe…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-07:537324:Comment:2264302010-02-07T13:48:33.652ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Umm, quite right. No idea where my mind was. AAR are the agents.
Umm, quite right. No idea where my mind was. AAR are the agents. AAR didn't make a deal with G…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2263822010-02-06T22:22:04.014ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
AAR didn't make a deal with Google, IJ. You're thinking Authors Guild and the Association of American Publishers.
AAR didn't make a deal with Google, IJ. You're thinking Authors Guild and the Association of American Publishers. I just got a royalties report…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2263792010-02-06T22:11:57.582ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I just got a royalties report. Seems like Penguin only pay 15%. I frankly do not see where their expenses are.<br />
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I don't like AAR. What they did on the Google deal was appalling -- and how come this organization can make deals for me?<br />
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Agents need to wake up to the electronic publishing phenomenon and rewrite contracts.
I just got a royalties report. Seems like Penguin only pay 15%. I frankly do not see where their expenses are.<br />
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I don't like AAR. What they did on the Google deal was appalling -- and how come this organization can make deals for me?<br />
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Agents need to wake up to the electronic publishing phenomenon and rewrite contracts. Well, the Association of Auth…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2263692010-02-06T18:57:50.019ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
Well, the Association of Authors' Representatives have been asking the same question. Apparently the big agencies are pushing for a 50% royalty on ebooks, which sounds pretty damned good to me. 20% seems like a fair cut for the publisher, IMO. Of course, no one knows if this is really going to happen; we'll see.
Well, the Association of Authors' Representatives have been asking the same question. Apparently the big agencies are pushing for a 50% royalty on ebooks, which sounds pretty damned good to me. 20% seems like a fair cut for the publisher, IMO. Of course, no one knows if this is really going to happen; we'll see. Is anyone wondering about the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2263662010-02-06T18:20:09.359ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Is anyone wondering about the 45% that make up the difference between the 25% reluctantly passed to the author and the 70% Amazon pays to publishers and authors alike? In what manner does a publisher earn 45 % of an e-book?
Is anyone wondering about the 45% that make up the difference between the 25% reluctantly passed to the author and the 70% Amazon pays to publishers and authors alike? In what manner does a publisher earn 45 % of an e-book? It's basically WalMart's busi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2262922010-02-06T13:38:20.965ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
It's basically WalMart's business plan transferred to the internet, and unfortunately it's plain old hardball retail selling--undercut the competition until he goes under. There was a window of opportunity maybe ten years ago for others to move into online bookselling and find a way to do it better than Amazon, and no doubt other opportunities will arise for big players (like Apple, say) to take a bite or two out of Amazon's market share. But yeah--the brick-and-mortar guys, with the exception…
It's basically WalMart's business plan transferred to the internet, and unfortunately it's plain old hardball retail selling--undercut the competition until he goes under. There was a window of opportunity maybe ten years ago for others to move into online bookselling and find a way to do it better than Amazon, and no doubt other opportunities will arise for big players (like Apple, say) to take a bite or two out of Amazon's market share. But yeah--the brick-and-mortar guys, with the exception of big, established sellers in densely populated urban centers--are pretty well screwed. And ebooks are going to screw them even harder. Yes, let's have price fixing…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2262882010-02-06T12:07:14.631ZEric Christophersonhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/datahog
Yes, let's have price fixing in publishing! And while we're at it, some extortion to buck up the insurance industry. :)
Yes, let's have price fixing in publishing! And while we're at it, some extortion to buck up the insurance industry. :) Isn't it time for new laws? A…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-06:537324:Comment:2262852010-02-06T09:28:27.748ZBobhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Bob24
Isn't it time for new laws? Amazon's cost to sell a $10 (for sake of math) book is $4.50. A brick and mortar store cost to sell a book is $8.00. Amazon will sell the same book on their site for $7.50. Amazon is in the practice of putting all competion out of business.<br />
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When they pay $14 for an ebook they sell for $9.99, I get concerned. (Yes, that is what they are doing and you can find supporting evidence on the web with ease (links can be found on the Write Report…
Isn't it time for new laws? Amazon's cost to sell a $10 (for sake of math) book is $4.50. A brick and mortar store cost to sell a book is $8.00. Amazon will sell the same book on their site for $7.50. Amazon is in the practice of putting all competion out of business.<br />
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When they pay $14 for an ebook they sell for $9.99, I get concerned. (Yes, that is what they are doing and you can find supporting evidence on the web with ease (links can be found on the Write Report <a href="http://writereport.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://writereport.blogspot.com/</a>)).<br />
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Price fixing may be the only way to save B&M and the millions of jobs that are associated with B&M businesses from the low cost internet giants who employ so few (7,800 US Amazon workforce, 20,100 worldwide. The job losses they have created to date are 50 times their employee base.) You're full of crap, Dana. He…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-05:537324:Comment:2261942010-02-05T00:28:25.470ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
You're full of crap, Dana. Heh. U.S. federal trade law has, since the days of Teddy Roosevelt, expressly forbidden manufacturers from getting together to fix the price at which they sell their products to retailers. It's collusion, or price fixing, and it's illegal (I know this because I used to work in the wholesale music industry, believe it or not). That said, in our current environment of deregulation and cowboy economics, it seems to happen all the time: see the petroleum industry, etc.…
You're full of crap, Dana. Heh. U.S. federal trade law has, since the days of Teddy Roosevelt, expressly forbidden manufacturers from getting together to fix the price at which they sell their products to retailers. It's collusion, or price fixing, and it's illegal (I know this because I used to work in the wholesale music industry, believe it or not). That said, in our current environment of deregulation and cowboy economics, it seems to happen all the time: see the petroleum industry, etc. How manufacturers deal with suppliers and labor is another issue, and doesn't fall under the same set of regulations. Basically, when you're dealing with a group as disorganized, decentralized and distracted as authors (anybody else get a headache when they try to read a royalty statement?), anything goes. That's why we have agents, and that's why agents have their own professional association, etc. Basically, the rules are different when it comes to dealing with labor/suppliers than they are in dealing with retailers. It's about trying to prevent vertical monopolies. There's very little in labor law that protects people like us, who are basically independent contractors. Yeah Dana, I picked up on tha…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-02-05:537324:Comment:2261932010-02-05T00:26:22.873ZB.R.Statehamhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
Yeah Dana, I picked up on that too. But that horse has been beaten to death in here. Nobody's going to change their minds.<br />
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Airlines use such collusional precedents all the time setting prices of tickets and baggage charges. Oil companies 'collude' all the time setting gasoline prices. But, like I said, beating a dead horse is beating a dead horse. . . .
Yeah Dana, I picked up on that too. But that horse has been beaten to death in here. Nobody's going to change their minds.<br />
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Airlines use such collusional precedents all the time setting prices of tickets and baggage charges. Oil companies 'collude' all the time setting gasoline prices. But, like I said, beating a dead horse is beating a dead horse. . . .