Suppose you had an established character . . . - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T21:33:38Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/suppose-you-had-an-established?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A211010&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOf course it has been done be…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-23:537324:Comment:2110102009-08-23T09:01:46.304ZBurl Barerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BurlBarer
Of course it has been done before..even without alteration in the name. There was even a TV series, TALES OF THE TEXAS RANGERS that alternated week to week between contemporary adventures and "old west" adventures...starring same to actors as the same two characters -- except different generations of those "characters"
Of course it has been done before..even without alteration in the name. There was even a TV series, TALES OF THE TEXAS RANGERS that alternated week to week between contemporary adventures and "old west" adventures...starring same to actors as the same two characters -- except different generations of those "characters" Mike--this is a hypotheical d…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-23:537324:Comment:2109962009-08-23T00:59:55.773ZB.R.Statehamhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
Mike--this is a hypotheical discussion I decided to put on in here in an effor to help someone over on FaceBook. Actually he's the one that has the well-established character. But he wants to take him to a different country and a different era.<br />
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It's been an interesting discussion.
Mike--this is a hypotheical discussion I decided to put on in here in an effor to help someone over on FaceBook. Actually he's the one that has the well-established character. But he wants to take him to a different country and a different era.<br />
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It's been an interesting discussion. BR--
This has certainly provo…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-22:537324:Comment:2109492009-08-22T20:55:35.754ZMike Dennishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MikeDennis
BR--<br />
This has certainly provoked a lot more response than I would've thought. Here's my 2 cents.<br />
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It sounds like what you're trying is a variation on the "Universal Soldier" theme. Not a bad idea if you don't stay in one place or one century for too long. If you've already entrenched a character in a specific time and place (as you apparently have), then the idea of using an ancestor or a descendant is a good one.<br />
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I have recently completed an as-yet unpublished novel in which my central…
BR--<br />
This has certainly provoked a lot more response than I would've thought. Here's my 2 cents.<br />
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It sounds like what you're trying is a variation on the "Universal Soldier" theme. Not a bad idea if you don't stay in one place or one century for too long. If you've already entrenched a character in a specific time and place (as you apparently have), then the idea of using an ancestor or a descendant is a good one.<br />
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I have recently completed an as-yet unpublished novel in which my central character is a private investigator in the early 2000s, but is the grandson of Mike Barnett, who was a TV private eye in the early 1950s. The TV show was called <i>Man Against Crime</i> and starred Ralph Bellamy. I draw several sharp distinctions between Mike Barnett and my character, his grandson, but the effect of continuity is there nonetheless. What you're talking about sounds like a similar thing. Why not go for it?<br />
--Mike Dennis<br />
Las Vegas Would you be taking the chanc…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-22:537324:Comment:2108952009-08-22T15:18:09.508Zp-squaredhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/psquared
Would you be taking the chance that your "well developed, and well liked, main character" may not be so well liked or well suited to a totally different context? What characteristics are going to be sacrificed?<br />
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The example that just popped into my head is Lucas Davenport from the "Prey" series by Sanford. Can you imagine Davenport teaming up with Sherlock Holmes or Hercules Poirot? The characteristics that make Davenport so well suited for the Prey novels would not translate terribly well…
Would you be taking the chance that your "well developed, and well liked, main character" may not be so well liked or well suited to a totally different context? What characteristics are going to be sacrificed?<br />
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The example that just popped into my head is Lucas Davenport from the "Prey" series by Sanford. Can you imagine Davenport teaming up with Sherlock Holmes or Hercules Poirot? The characteristics that make Davenport so well suited for the Prey novels would not translate terribly well without serious overhaul. The end result is a character that is not Davenport.<br />
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Short of time travel or some other deus ex machina, people are a reflection of their times. The 'great story rule' applie…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-19:537324:Comment:2106472009-08-19T00:47:41.758ZJack Cameronhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JackCameron
The 'great story rule' applies here. It's fine to do something like this, but only if the story is greater than what you're asking the audience to go along with. Personally I like family history being used to explain certain traits, but if the character is too much like his future generation self then the audience might not buy it...unless it's a great story. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button when you look at it is a silly and impossible concept, but it works because the story is great.
The 'great story rule' applies here. It's fine to do something like this, but only if the story is greater than what you're asking the audience to go along with. Personally I like family history being used to explain certain traits, but if the character is too much like his future generation self then the audience might not buy it...unless it's a great story. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button when you look at it is a silly and impossible concept, but it works because the story is great. Simplicity is best, and if an…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-18:537324:Comment:2106202009-08-18T16:28:39.659ZD.R. MacMasterhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DuncanRMacMaster
Simplicity is best, and if anyone gripes about it, just look at them like they're an idiot and say: "<i>Oh, you didn't get it... sorry</i>."
Simplicity is best, and if anyone gripes about it, just look at them like they're an idiot and say: "<i>Oh, you didn't get it... sorry</i>." In the end, I think this is e…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-18:537324:Comment:2105532009-08-18T14:08:15.528ZB.R.Statehamhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
In the end, I think this is exactly what should be done, D.R.
In the end, I think this is exactly what should be done, D.R. How about this...
No explana…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-18:537324:Comment:2105512009-08-18T14:00:41.411ZD.R. MacMasterhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DuncanRMacMaster
How about this...<br />
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No explanation at all.<br />
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Just have it be what it is, and that's all that it is. No genetics, no explanations, no convoluted machinations, he just happens to live in different times and different places.
How about this...<br />
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No explanation at all.<br />
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Just have it be what it is, and that's all that it is. No genetics, no explanations, no convoluted machinations, he just happens to live in different times and different places. Oh hell, if Leonard's doing i…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-17:537324:Comment:2104762009-08-17T20:59:33.085ZminervaKhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Oh hell, if Leonard's doing it, the sky's the limit! Go for it, B.R.
Oh hell, if Leonard's doing it, the sky's the limit! Go for it, B.R. I like the family saga idea.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-08-17:537324:Comment:2104652009-08-17T20:13:06.637ZJohn McFetridgehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
I like the family saga idea.<br />
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Elmore Leonard has now linked up his westerns and his modern day crime stories through the Webster stories. The current Webster is the grandson of the Webster in the westerns.
I like the family saga idea.<br />
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Elmore Leonard has now linked up his westerns and his modern day crime stories through the Webster stories. The current Webster is the grandson of the Webster in the westerns.