The Google Books Settlement - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T21:43:13Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/the-google-books-settlement?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A185859&feed=yes&xn_auth=noUpdate to my previous post:…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-04-05:537324:Comment:1917542009-04-05T23:13:35.656ZDana Stabenowhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/storyknife
Update to my previous post:<br />
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I went to the Google Settlement page (<a href="https://www.google.com/a/gbss.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=gbss&continue=http://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/login%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/view_claims&hl=en">https://www.google.com/a/gbss.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=gbss&continue=http://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/login%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/view_claims&hl=en</a>) and claimed my books.…
Update to my previous post:<br />
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I went to the Google Settlement page (<a href="https://www.google.com/a/gbss.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=gbss&continue=http://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/login%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/view_claims&hl=en">https://www.google.com/a/gbss.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=gbss&continue=http://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/login%3Fcontinue%3Dhttp://www.googlebooksettlement.com/r/view_claims&hl=en</a>) and claimed my books. My agent checked into it for me and I read a few articles on it (<a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123819841868261921.html">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123819841868261921.html</a> and <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/technology/internet/04books.html?_r=2&hp">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/04/technology/internet/04books.html?_r=2&hp</a>).<br />
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I have come to see the Google thing as an alternative means of publicity, promotion and publishing for my work. Further, writers will be paid royalties when their work is used, not much, admittedly, but something. A check, no matter how minuscule, is an acknowledgment of the payee's rights to the property. It sets a legal precedent. It brands your work with your name in whatever format it appears.<br />
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The settlement form is easy to fill out, register with a password, search your ISBN, and then three steps later you save and you're done. There are also levels you can set as to how your work is reproduced, how much of it, and where.<br />
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And you can also opt out entirely, you just have to do it before May 2009. How nice! Thanks, Tom. B&…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-06:537324:Comment:1866412009-03-06T13:55:22.866ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
How nice! Thanks, Tom. B&N has not generally been supportive.
How nice! Thanks, Tom. B&N has not generally been supportive. Well, I've already put the br…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-06:537324:Comment:1866392009-03-06T13:53:45.138ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Well, I've already put the brakes on Google's use of my books, so it's a moot point. Don't forget that GoogleBooks is not a device to promote reading, research, and authors. It's strictly a money-making endeavor by Google who charges for use and sells advertising. Any promotion is incidental to those aims.
Well, I've already put the brakes on Google's use of my books, so it's a moot point. Don't forget that GoogleBooks is not a device to promote reading, research, and authors. It's strictly a money-making endeavor by Google who charges for use and sells advertising. Any promotion is incidental to those aims. Cripes!
I hope you can use t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-06:537324:Comment:1866232009-03-06T05:26:01.923ZTom Barclayhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MacCZpilot
Cripes!<br />
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I hope you can use this sour mash to distill some figurative bourbon. It's sounding like a script for 'Leverage.'<br />
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BTW, you're on the shelves in the B&N at 405 and Beach in Westminster (or is it Huntington Beach?), CA.
Cripes!<br />
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I hope you can use this sour mash to distill some figurative bourbon. It's sounding like a script for 'Leverage.'<br />
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BTW, you're on the shelves in the B&N at 405 and Beach in Westminster (or is it Huntington Beach?), CA. I have used google books. You…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-06:537324:Comment:1866182009-03-06T05:18:09.910ZBobhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Bob24
I have used google books. You can read an entire book minus a couple pages. I have previewed authors for 60+ pages when I am interested in finding out more about their style when working with them on query letters or responding to comments. Yes, I own bookstores, but it is easier to read a good chunk of an author's work on Google Books than to drive up to the store and grab a copy.<br />
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One plus to the agreement is Google appears to want to market books. If you can get revenues by allowing…
I have used google books. You can read an entire book minus a couple pages. I have previewed authors for 60+ pages when I am interested in finding out more about their style when working with them on query letters or responding to comments. Yes, I own bookstores, but it is easier to read a good chunk of an author's work on Google Books than to drive up to the store and grab a copy.<br />
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One plus to the agreement is Google appears to want to market books. If you can get revenues by allowing previews, then it might be a good thing. If enough authors recommend google change to a more industry accepted preview style of the first three chapters/first 30 pages, it may become a valid marketing tool for out of print books. Well, it covers a sort of res…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-03:537324:Comment:1860822009-03-03T14:45:11.956ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Well, it covers a sort of residual use. Yes, it's insulting. Also, note that it's dependent on whether they make enough money from customers and advertisers. Have you had any occasion to use GoogleBooks?<br />
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However, Authors Guild has signed off on the deal. My agency cannot handle my case if I drop out of the settlement and sue. The best I can do is to stay in and forbid all future use of my books. That's the decision I ended up with in my understanding of the issue.<br />
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We can only wait and see…
Well, it covers a sort of residual use. Yes, it's insulting. Also, note that it's dependent on whether they make enough money from customers and advertisers. Have you had any occasion to use GoogleBooks?<br />
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However, Authors Guild has signed off on the deal. My agency cannot handle my case if I drop out of the settlement and sue. The best I can do is to stay in and forbid all future use of my books. That's the decision I ended up with in my understanding of the issue.<br />
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We can only wait and see what the impact of this (and Kindle) is on book publishing. While these "thefts" are happening, other companies are working to make electronic publishing marketable and beneficial to authors. $60 is just an insult. I woul…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-03:537324:Comment:1860072009-03-03T01:24:10.052ZJon Loomishttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
$60 is just an insult. I wouldn't sell a book for that.
$60 is just an insult. I wouldn't sell a book for that. There's really a big shift go…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-02:537324:Comment:1859322009-03-02T15:50:20.175ZJohn McFetridgehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
There's really a big shift going on in the corporate world that we're caught between.<br />
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For companies like Google and ISP providors (who are now all major media companies, really) it works best if no one has to stop to pay for content, if it's just all accessible with the one payment that gets them online.<br />
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It's still early days, so we'll see how it goes.
There's really a big shift going on in the corporate world that we're caught between.<br />
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For companies like Google and ISP providors (who are now all major media companies, really) it works best if no one has to stop to pay for content, if it's just all accessible with the one payment that gets them online.<br />
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It's still early days, so we'll see how it goes. $ 60.00 is also what I've bee…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-02:537324:Comment:1859202009-03-02T14:40:07.731ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
$ 60.00 is also what I've been told in the materials I received. Out-of-print books are uninteresting to publishers, unless they want to engage in the POD business for which they have shown little inclination. Agents may feel differently if and when they see solid profits in future publishing venues.
$ 60.00 is also what I've been told in the materials I received. Out-of-print books are uninteresting to publishers, unless they want to engage in the POD business for which they have shown little inclination. Agents may feel differently if and when they see solid profits in future publishing venues. Thanks, Tom. I'm mad enough t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-03-02:537324:Comment:1859182009-03-02T14:37:07.813ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Thanks, Tom. I'm mad enough to opt out of everything. And God knows, they are stealing right and left, aren't they? It's a pity that electronic publishing should have brought out the worst in business. Though, considering the revelations about CEOs everywhere, we shouldn't be surprised. Clearly a lot of time will be taken up by fighting current and future takeovers of our books.
Thanks, Tom. I'm mad enough to opt out of everything. And God knows, they are stealing right and left, aren't they? It's a pity that electronic publishing should have brought out the worst in business. Though, considering the revelations about CEOs everywhere, we shouldn't be surprised. Clearly a lot of time will be taken up by fighting current and future takeovers of our books.