Untreed Reads - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T23:23:54Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/untreed-reads?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A299797&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks, Byron. Since I have…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-25:537324:Comment:3017882011-07-25T13:22:42.313ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Thanks, Byron. Since I have old print contracts that include e-rights, I've started wondering if the e-books ever go out of "print." If it is possible therefore for the printed books to disappear and those rights to be returned while the e-rights stay with the publisher into eternity. I guess I should consult my contracts or my agent about that. Joe Konrath's repeated "e-books are forever" tends to make one nervous.</p>
<p>Thanks, Byron. Since I have old print contracts that include e-rights, I've started wondering if the e-books ever go out of "print." If it is possible therefore for the printed books to disappear and those rights to be returned while the e-rights stay with the publisher into eternity. I guess I should consult my contracts or my agent about that. Joe Konrath's repeated "e-books are forever" tends to make one nervous.</p> Electronic publishers, like t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-24:537324:Comment:3016722011-07-24T22:34:56.265ZByron Leon McAllisterhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/YDNUOR
Electronic publishers, like the ones that use tree pulp, need to offer writers a contract. Unless they're so big they can afford very pricey lawyers, they would be well advised to stick with that contract. So if the agreement doesn't mention a kill fee, there probably shouldn't be one. On the other hand, at least some contracts have (mine have, e.g.) clear statements as to how long the book is committed to the publisher and vice versa, after which the deal might be renewed or (as in my case)…
Electronic publishers, like the ones that use tree pulp, need to offer writers a contract. Unless they're so big they can afford very pricey lawyers, they would be well advised to stick with that contract. So if the agreement doesn't mention a kill fee, there probably shouldn't be one. On the other hand, at least some contracts have (mine have, e.g.) clear statements as to how long the book is committed to the publisher and vice versa, after which the deal might be renewed or (as in my case) one figures they'll stay "in print" (e-print, i.e.) until one tells them to stop. I have no plan to tell <em>my</em> e-publisher to stop, so rights aren't returned yet, but as I read mycontract, now that the period for which they are committed is over, they would be <em>if</em> I said i wanted them to be (or, of course, if the <em>publisher</em> wanted to quit keeping them available). If the contract demands a kill fee and one doesn't want to have to pay it, perhaps it would be inadvisable to sign the contract, though I think I probably would, since I'm still pretty darned unknown and shouldn't turn down any but the <em>most</em> unreasonable provisions. Thanks, B.R.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-16:537324:Comment:3003912011-07-16T17:52:22.532ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Thanks, B.R.
Thanks, B.R. My book with them is coming o…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-16:537324:Comment:3003872011-07-16T15:08:24.205ZB.R.Statehamhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
<p>My book with them is coming out in mid-August. They've got the reputation of being able to put an ebook out across a wide venue of ebook stores around the world. And they have had several nationally recognized 'hits' from one or more of their authors.</p>
<p>They're contract offers no surprises and seem quite generous.</p>
<p>My book with them is coming out in mid-August. They've got the reputation of being able to put an ebook out across a wide venue of ebook stores around the world. And they have had several nationally recognized 'hits' from one or more of their authors.</p>
<p>They're contract offers no surprises and seem quite generous.</p> Thanks much, Stephen. And hap…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-15:537324:Comment:3001922011-07-15T13:23:46.359ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Thanks much, Stephen. And happy sales to you!
Thanks much, Stephen. And happy sales to you! Hey I.J.,
I've appeared in…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-14:537324:Comment:3001002011-07-14T23:38:37.765ZStephen D. Rogershttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StephenDRogers
<p>Hey I.J.,</p>
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<p>I've appeared in an anthology published by them (DISCOUNT NOIR), and they're releasing the ebook version of SHOT TO DEATH (Mainly Murder Press). I've no complaints. UNTREED seem quick to send informational updates, which I always appreciate.</p>
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<p>Stephen</p>
<p>THREE-MINUTE MYSTERIES: 25 mysteries you can solve on your Kindle, NOOK, or PC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.StephenDRogers.com">www.StephenDRogers.com</a></p>
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<p>Hey I.J.,</p>
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<p>I've appeared in an anthology published by them (DISCOUNT NOIR), and they're releasing the ebook version of SHOT TO DEATH (Mainly Murder Press). I've no complaints. UNTREED seem quick to send informational updates, which I always appreciate.</p>
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<p>Stephen</p>
<p>THREE-MINUTE MYSTERIES: 25 mysteries you can solve on your Kindle, NOOK, or PC</p>
<p><a href="http://www.StephenDRogers.com">www.StephenDRogers.com</a></p>
<p> </p> Oh, yeah, some of the covers…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-14:537324:Comment:2999312011-07-14T14:39:42.290ZSandra Ruttanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Sandramre
<p>Oh, yeah, some of the covers are awful. We're working with a great artist. You can check out some samples of his stuff <a target="_blank" href="http://snubnosepress.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/speedloader_cover_final.jpg">here</a>:</p>
<p>And <a target="_blank" href="http://snubnosepress.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/harvest-final-cover.jpg">here</a></p>
<p>Oh, yeah, some of the covers are awful. We're working with a great artist. You can check out some samples of his stuff <a target="_blank" href="http://snubnosepress.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/speedloader_cover_final.jpg">here</a>:</p>
<p>And <a target="_blank" href="http://snubnosepress.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/harvest-final-cover.jpg">here</a></p> Thanks, Pepper. Sounds reaso…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-14:537324:Comment:2999272011-07-14T14:00:00.340ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Thanks, Pepper. Sounds reasonable if we're talking a year, as in the case of Kindle.
Thanks, Pepper. Sounds reasonable if we're talking a year, as in the case of Kindle. It really does depend on the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-13:537324:Comment:2998012011-07-13T22:03:26.330ZPepper Smithhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Reefrunner
<p>It really does depend on the epublisher, which is why you have to email and ask them. My publisher takes rights for a set period, and the contract is renewable by mutual consent afterward for as long as author and publisher agree, with the publisher returning rights upon request once the original contract period has expired. My previous publisher also released the rights upon request after the end of the contract period. If there's not a provision for this, you want to think twice about…</p>
<p>It really does depend on the epublisher, which is why you have to email and ask them. My publisher takes rights for a set period, and the contract is renewable by mutual consent afterward for as long as author and publisher agree, with the publisher returning rights upon request once the original contract period has expired. My previous publisher also released the rights upon request after the end of the contract period. If there's not a provision for this, you want to think twice about it. No publisher should keep your rights in perpetuity, and since a publisher will spend money getting your book out there, even if you did the cover art, a reasonable fee for an early release from contract is not unexpected. It's when they start asking in the hundreds of dollars to discourage you from asking for an early release that you run into trouble.</p>
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<p>Asking them will likely not get your head bitten off, and it will let you know if it's a venue you want to pursue.</p> Thanks much. And very good l…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-07-13:537324:Comment:2997992011-07-13T21:05:57.595ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Thanks much. And very good luck with the undertaking.</p>
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<p>I do my own covers. Granted, I'm still learning, but so far my professionally designed covers have not impressed me all that much, and I've seen many dreadful covers on books by big houses.</p>
<p>Thanks much. And very good luck with the undertaking.</p>
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<p>I do my own covers. Granted, I'm still learning, but so far my professionally designed covers have not impressed me all that much, and I've seen many dreadful covers on books by big houses.</p>