What's so bad about BSP (blatant self-promotion) - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T10:08:15Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/whats-so-bad-about-bsp-blatant?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A203713&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFunny. Actually, I don't seem…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-27:537324:Comment:2053302009-06-27T20:59:19.707ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Funny. Actually, I don't seem to get those things. Good.
Funny. Actually, I don't seem to get those things. Good. That's it exactly--we don't w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-27:537324:Comment:2053172009-06-27T17:32:58.708ZToni L.P. Kelnerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ToniLPKelner
That's it exactly--we don't want to be used.<br />
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Recently a guy on Linked In sent me a "friend" notice, which he followed with a note saying basically, "I want to be your friend and know about you. The best way to know about me is to buy my book." He went on to describe his self-published memoir. (If the memoir is as error-ridden as his note, it's pretty bad.) I replied that I'd consider a request for friendship more sincere if it didn't come with a commercial, and he sent another note saying he…
That's it exactly--we don't want to be used.<br />
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Recently a guy on Linked In sent me a "friend" notice, which he followed with a note saying basically, "I want to be your friend and know about you. The best way to know about me is to buy my book." He went on to describe his self-published memoir. (If the memoir is as error-ridden as his note, it's pretty bad.) I replied that I'd consider a request for friendship more sincere if it didn't come with a commercial, and he sent another note saying he was proud of his book and described it again. With more typos.<br />
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People read the advice, "Use social networking to promote your books." So they try, but don't actually network. Or even be social. They just promote. Okay, point taken. I'll readi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-27:537324:Comment:2052872009-06-27T13:10:50.315ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Okay, point taken. I'll readily admit to ignoring BSP myself. That is not to say that I don't meet interesting writers on the web and I may well be influenced to buy a book here or there. But usually it's something other than the "please buy my book" post that catches my attention.<br />
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On this site, any number of people post only to promote. As far as I'm concerned, that's a strike against them. One doesn't like to be used.
Okay, point taken. I'll readily admit to ignoring BSP myself. That is not to say that I don't meet interesting writers on the web and I may well be influenced to buy a book here or there. But usually it's something other than the "please buy my book" post that catches my attention.<br />
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On this site, any number of people post only to promote. As far as I'm concerned, that's a strike against them. One doesn't like to be used. I do remember that desperatio…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-26:537324:Comment:2051832009-06-26T21:04:21.727ZToni L.P. Kelnerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ToniLPKelner
I do remember that desperation, and I know it's hard to know where to draw the line. But if we don't discuss this kind of issue publicly, how will he find out that it's offending people? How will other new writers find out?<br />
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I don't want to hound this particular author, which is why I don't give his name. I just wanted to make the point.
I do remember that desperation, and I know it's hard to know where to draw the line. But if we don't discuss this kind of issue publicly, how will he find out that it's offending people? How will other new writers find out?<br />
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I don't want to hound this particular author, which is why I don't give his name. I just wanted to make the point. I appreciate the desperation…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-26:537324:Comment:2051742009-06-26T17:54:13.053ZDana Kinghttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
I appreciate the desperation of new authors, but I have to admit, nothing turns me off a writer faster than a bunch of unsolicited BSP. If I didn't know them before, I certainly don;t want to know them after they've been spamming me.
I appreciate the desperation of new authors, but I have to admit, nothing turns me off a writer faster than a bunch of unsolicited BSP. If I didn't know them before, I certainly don;t want to know them after they've been spamming me. I think we must remember the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-26:537324:Comment:2051662009-06-26T17:17:19.992ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I think we must remember the desperation of new writers, and perhaps also their innocent belief that what their publisher and agent have told them about getting out there and doing publicity is actually something that will work.
I think we must remember the desperation of new writers, and perhaps also their innocent belief that what their publisher and agent have told them about getting out there and doing publicity is actually something that will work. Today I got a comment on my p…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-26:537324:Comment:2051632009-06-26T16:21:21.584ZToni L.P. Kelnerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ToniLPKelner
Today I got a comment on my profile here at at CrimeSpace that was pure BSP.<br />
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I don't believe I've had any contact with the sender in the past so he has no reason to think I'm interested in his work. And I went to his profile and saw that he'd posted on a number of people's profiles.<br />
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This is NOT a good marketing approach, in my opinion. Certainly it won't work for me. I will probably never buy the book because I don't like being spammed.
Today I got a comment on my profile here at at CrimeSpace that was pure BSP.<br />
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I don't believe I've had any contact with the sender in the past so he has no reason to think I'm interested in his work. And I went to his profile and saw that he'd posted on a number of people's profiles.<br />
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This is NOT a good marketing approach, in my opinion. Certainly it won't work for me. I will probably never buy the book because I don't like being spammed. BSP is a big-turn off, esp. w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-20:537324:Comment:2038922009-06-20T19:39:45.000ZJosephine Damianhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JosephineDamian
BSP is a big-turn off, esp. when it's like a broken record. How many times to I need to be reminded someone has a book out?<br />
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Either a writer grabs me on the first page or they don't and the posted blurbs and rave reviews (from friends and family and suck-up writers) won't make me want to read a book.<br />
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The smart writer sits back and lets others spread the word about their book.
BSP is a big-turn off, esp. when it's like a broken record. How many times to I need to be reminded someone has a book out?<br />
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Either a writer grabs me on the first page or they don't and the posted blurbs and rave reviews (from friends and family and suck-up writers) won't make me want to read a book.<br />
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The smart writer sits back and lets others spread the word about their book. I think if you promote in the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-19:537324:Comment:2037132009-06-19T00:00:12.938ZChristine Duncanhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ChristineDuncan
I think if you promote in the right place (I have to say that, since I have something up on the events page--and don't want to look like a complete idiot.) but honestly where else but here can you go to hear shop talk/gripes about the industry, along with a bit of humor?<br />
I LIKE hearing how everyone else's book is selling, how to get an agent and who is trying something new. So sometimes the BSP is helpful too-even if I do get envious sometimes.
I think if you promote in the right place (I have to say that, since I have something up on the events page--and don't want to look like a complete idiot.) but honestly where else but here can you go to hear shop talk/gripes about the industry, along with a bit of humor?<br />
I LIKE hearing how everyone else's book is selling, how to get an agent and who is trying something new. So sometimes the BSP is helpful too-even if I do get envious sometimes. Quite right. They pay publici…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-18:537324:Comment:2036752009-06-18T16:56:18.483ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Quite right. They pay publicists. Those publicists need to do more than organize book tours and send out ARCs. I'm pretty lucky in that my publicist knows how much reviews mean to me, and so far they've been generous about ARCs.
Quite right. They pay publicists. Those publicists need to do more than organize book tours and send out ARCs. I'm pretty lucky in that my publicist knows how much reviews mean to me, and so far they've been generous about ARCs.