Winners of the 2010 Davitt Awards - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T05:32:17Zhttp://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/winners-of-the-2010-davitt?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A248573&xg_raw_resources=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noColleagues, the point of my o…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-03:537324:Comment:2487282010-09-03T01:34:37.208ZJacqui Horwoodhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacquiHorwood
Colleagues, the point of my original post was to congratulate people who were honoured by winning a Davitt Award. Some people may object to gender-specific awards (and they're entitled to) but our winners were chuffed to be recognized. In that spirit, I'd ask that we continue the current debate in a separate thread and let our winners enjoy the moment without feeling they are a 'laugh'.
Colleagues, the point of my original post was to congratulate people who were honoured by winning a Davitt Award. Some people may object to gender-specific awards (and they're entitled to) but our winners were chuffed to be recognized. In that spirit, I'd ask that we continue the current debate in a separate thread and let our winners enjoy the moment without feeling they are a 'laugh'. All the issues mentioned abov…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-02:537324:Comment:2487062010-09-02T22:02:36.554ZBenjamin Sobieckhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
All the issues mentioned above make me question how valuable awards are any more. It's great to be recognized, but when there's so much stigma attached to it, is it worth it?<br />
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I'm not saying these are worthless recognitions. The winners are no doubt talented and deserving.
All the issues mentioned above make me question how valuable awards are any more. It's great to be recognized, but when there's so much stigma attached to it, is it worth it?<br />
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I'm not saying these are worthless recognitions. The winners are no doubt talented and deserving. Hmm - not sure whether Alan w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-02:537324:Comment:2486322010-09-02T15:21:55.841ZLindy Cameronhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Lindycameron
Hmm - not sure whether Alan was meaning that Ned Kelly (the bushranger after whom the awards were named) was always kind to women (back in the late 1800s); or that the Ned Kelly Awards have been 'kind' to women.<br />
The first is amusing; the second is patronising. (I'm pretty sure he was being funny.)<br />
Oh, and I take it back about NO woman ever winning a Neddy.<br />
Gabrielle Lord won in 2002.<br />
So I suppose, one in 13 years is quite kind.<br />
And women have been well represented in the non-fiction stakes;…
Hmm - not sure whether Alan was meaning that Ned Kelly (the bushranger after whom the awards were named) was always kind to women (back in the late 1800s); or that the Ned Kelly Awards have been 'kind' to women.<br />
The first is amusing; the second is patronising. (I'm pretty sure he was being funny.)<br />
Oh, and I take it back about NO woman ever winning a Neddy.<br />
Gabrielle Lord won in 2002.<br />
So I suppose, one in 13 years is quite kind.<br />
And women have been well represented in the non-fiction stakes; with 3 of the 9 winning for True Crime; and Marele Day getting hers for How To Write Crime.<br />
Marele actually won a Shamus Award for her crime novel the Last Tango of Dolores Delgado - back in the dim dark 1990s. Not sure, but I think she was the first non-American to win won. Or maybe just the first Aussie.<br />
And I'll simply say again, that SISTERS in Crime is an organisation for the writers and readers of women's crime fiction. Us giving a Davitt Award to a bloke would be like the Americans awarding a World Series Baseball trophy to a club from Melbourne - it being part of the 'world'.<br />
Both the Neddys and the Davitts are prestigious down here.<br />
But another thing to consider is that the Ned Kelly Awards are 'convened' once a year for the awards themselves.<br />
WHile Sisters in Crime holds events, functions, debates, book launches, panel discussions, you-name-it, throughout the year; and have done EVERY year for nearly two decades. The plot thickens. :)
You kn…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-02:537324:Comment:2486202010-09-02T13:48:18.978ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
The plot thickens. :)<br />
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You know, we've had some controversy here in the U.S. also. The Edgars were attacked years ago. Then they seemed to favor women and were attacked again. I've judged for the Shamus, and got very angry when our choice of a male winner was questioned by women. It's clearly entirely possible that some years the guys have the better writers. I suppose, it would be more interesting to see who all is nominated, though that too may be inconclusive.<br />
So, taking Alan Wilson's…
The plot thickens. :)<br />
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You know, we've had some controversy here in the U.S. also. The Edgars were attacked years ago. Then they seemed to favor women and were attacked again. I've judged for the Shamus, and got very angry when our choice of a male winner was questioned by women. It's clearly entirely possible that some years the guys have the better writers. I suppose, it would be more interesting to see who all is nominated, though that too may be inconclusive.<br />
So, taking Alan Wilson's comment, I'm back to opposing gender-specific awards. Worth noting as well that all…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-02:537324:Comment:2485732010-09-02T03:26:31.663ZKaren from AustCrimehttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/austcrimefiction
Worth noting as well that all 4 books were published by Allen & Unwin - their support of local writers is hugely appreciated by this reader anyway.
Worth noting as well that all 4 books were published by Allen & Unwin - their support of local writers is hugely appreciated by this reader anyway. Thank you Lindy - you are far…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-02:537324:Comment:2485602010-09-02T00:26:53.996ZJacqui Horwoodhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacquiHorwood
Thank you Lindy - you are far more eloquent and logical than me.
Thank you Lindy - you are far more eloquent and logical than me. Well, ok. I see a point here.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-01:537324:Comment:2485082010-09-01T14:36:08.584ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Well, ok. I see a point here. Shame on the Ned Kellys. I guess I just haven't become angry enough about discrimination.
Well, ok. I see a point here. Shame on the Ned Kellys. I guess I just haven't become angry enough about discrimination. Sisters in Crime is a organis…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-01:537324:Comment:2484902010-09-01T13:29:39.686ZLindy Cameronhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Lindycameron
Sisters in Crime is a organisation for the writers and readers of women's crime fiction. Here in Australia, we lovingly call our our male members - who are also fans - our Brothers-in-Law.<br />
We run an annual short story competition - the Scarlet Stiletto Awards - to encourage more women of all ages to take up crime and mystery writing; and the Davitt Awards for published novels (and true crime) are only for women writers because (and I repeat the first sentence) Sisters in Crime is an…
Sisters in Crime is a organisation for the writers and readers of women's crime fiction. Here in Australia, we lovingly call our our male members - who are also fans - our Brothers-in-Law.<br />
We run an annual short story competition - the Scarlet Stiletto Awards - to encourage more women of all ages to take up crime and mystery writing; and the Davitt Awards for published novels (and true crime) are only for women writers because (and I repeat the first sentence) Sisters in Crime is an organisation for the writers and readers of women's crime fiction.<br />
A woman has never won the Ned Kelly Awards. Although crime writer Marele Day once won a category for a book on how to to write a crime novel.<br />
The boys who run the Ned Kellys pretty much think that only boys write can crime fiction.<br />
So you can 'oppose' it all you like IJ, but that's the way it is.<br />
For us it's a celebration of women's crime writing - not a competition. fair enough, that's your pero…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-01:537324:Comment:2484482010-09-01T01:08:07.888ZJacqui Horwoodhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacquiHorwood
fair enough, that's your perogative. thanks for your feedback.
fair enough, that's your perogative. thanks for your feedback. I'm sorry, but I oppose any a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-31:537324:Comment:2484012010-08-31T13:29:31.074ZI. J. Parkerhttp://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I'm sorry, but I oppose any award that leaves out the other half. In the end, people can still say, 'But they wouldn't have won if it hadn't been for women only." Take up the complaints with the Ned Kelly people. Women are a lot better off competing at large and winning at large.
I'm sorry, but I oppose any award that leaves out the other half. In the end, people can still say, 'But they wouldn't have won if it hadn't been for women only." Take up the complaints with the Ned Kelly people. Women are a lot better off competing at large and winning at large.