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Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
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Hi there,I already had discussion about the importance of having a hook in other threads with some of you, including…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by John Edward Mullen Jan 5, 2013.

Is there any American equivalent of Rampo Edogawa?
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Hi, I truly enjoy Rampo Edogawa's style and crime and mystery plots. Would anyone here recommend any similar, deviant US or English-speaking author?Thanks.Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tom Vater Jan 16, 2013.

If you had the choice, which one would you read?
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Hi everybody,Below are 3 versions of an extract of a hard-boiled, noir crime story. I won't tell you more (classical vs. punchy style, flow, readibility, creativity...). All I want to know is: which…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by I. J. Parker Dec 8, 2012.

 

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Tom Vater replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is there any American equivalent of Rampo Edogawa?
"Crime Wave Press is a publisher specializing in mysteries based in Asia. Check out the Father Ananda books, which follow a Buddhist monk cum sleuth through the mean streets of Bangkok. In March, Crime Wave Press will publish Gaijin Cowgirl by Jame…"
Jan 16, 2013
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Jan 12, 2013
John Edward Mullen replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"For help on developing a hook, check out the book, Write Away, by Elizabeth George, which provides 8 or 9 types of hooks you could employ.   The idea of a serial killer being the protaonist, as has been mentioned by others, is…"
Jan 5, 2013
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Jan 3, 2013
Brian Hoffman replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"These stories are done a lot.  Watch Criminal Minds.  And they have become normal fare for other TV shows and B-rate thrillers. HERE is a link to the profile of serial killers.  It might help.  The hook comes from childhood…"
Jan 1, 2013
Liam Saville replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"A hook is in my opinion very important, as the last thing you want to do is lose your readers on page one or two.  With the scenario you have described I'd write a dramatic end scene and use it as a short opening or prologue.  Date it…"
Dec 31, 2012
I. J. Parker replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"You plan to create empathy for a serial killer?  Sorry.  That isn't something I can deal with.   Your English is very good.  As to your questions:  in midaction would imply his getting caught as he is killing his last…"
Dec 31, 2012
I. J. Parker replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"OK.  That works."
Dec 31, 2012
Bodypractor replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
""I'm assuming the guy only appears normal at the start (and perhaps acts normall too), but isn't in reality, in his thoughts and interests." That's my idea indeed. What happens sometime is that people "pop a lid"…"
Dec 31, 2012
Bodypractor replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"Eric, I like your ideas. I.J., I'm not sure I understand everything you said (sorry, but English is not my mother tongue). What do you exactly mean by: - "arrested in mid-action" - "the trail scene"? - "shift from…"
Dec 31, 2012
Eric Christopherson replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"I'm assuming the guy only appears normal at the start, but isn't in reality. I don't think a book in which a guy is normal and then develops into a serial killer is realistic. If you research serial killers, they are born psychopaths…"
Dec 31, 2012
I. J. Parker replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"Jeez, Eric.  That guy is NOT normal even if he hasn't actually disemboweled anyone.   The most common device is to have a prologue, say where the main character is arrested in mid-action, and then double back to start his career from…"
Dec 31, 2012
Eric Christopherson replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?
"I think your idea has potential. Yet it would likely take a great deal of skill with characterization to work. I also wonder what the "through line" is. What does the character want that moves him to act from page to page? Perhaps his…"
Dec 31, 2012
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Is a HOOK compulsory? Or how to create it in such a case?

Hi there,I already had discussion about the importance of having a hook in other threads with some of you, including I. J. Parker, Eric Christopherson, Brian Hoffman, etc.I'd be happy to get your input and advice on a specific…See More
Dec 31, 2012
Bodypractor replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is there any American equivalent of Rampo Edogawa?
"Robert, try this also: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AQPPP6S This is the closest text I've found compared to Edogawa. Your reference to Chandler made sense! ;-)"
Dec 31, 2012
Bodypractor replied to Bodypractor's discussion Is there any American equivalent of Rampo Edogawa?
"Edogowa Rampo--just say his pen name quickly three times to discover how much he loved Edgar Allen Poe--is considered the first and foremost writer of Japanese mystery fiction. Very little of his work has been translated. Many of the stories rely…"
Dec 8, 2012

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Hello, Am Pamilar, I really want to have a good friendship with you. i have something special i want to discuses with you. You can get back to me, directly to my e-mail. frpamilar@yahoo.co.uk

 
 
 

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