Stereotypes--I'm phobic about them. But can a MINOR character be one-- - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T12:25:50Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:159511?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A160462&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=nothanks Tom!
great reply and I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-19:537324:Comment:1604622008-09-19T16:36:46.420Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
thanks Tom!<br />
great reply and I appreciate it.<br />
I like that, yes there is truth in them.<br />
didn't know that about the other ethnic groups in Chicago. but it makes a lot of sense.
thanks Tom!<br />
great reply and I appreciate it.<br />
I like that, yes there is truth in them.<br />
didn't know that about the other ethnic groups in Chicago. but it makes a lot of sense. In Chicago, mobs in the 1950s…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-13:537324:Comment:1599332008-09-13T23:40:46.189ZTom Barclayhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MacCZpilot
In Chicago, mobs in the 1950s were not just Italian. There were Irish and Polish and Czech and black outfits. In St. Louis there were all of the above, plus a growing Lebanese contingent.<br />
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Another thing to remember about stereotypes is how they come into use - and that's because there's some truth to them.
In Chicago, mobs in the 1950s were not just Italian. There were Irish and Polish and Czech and black outfits. In St. Louis there were all of the above, plus a growing Lebanese contingent.<br />
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Another thing to remember about stereotypes is how they come into use - and that's because there's some truth to them. Dana, thanks.
Just over-worri…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595992008-09-10T17:17:27.297Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
Dana, thanks.<br />
Just over-worried I guess!<br />
I agree and will take on board what you say, makes a lot of sense!
Dana, thanks.<br />
Just over-worried I guess!<br />
I agree and will take on board what you say, makes a lot of sense! One-dimensional stereotypes w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595962008-09-10T17:06:27.053ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
One-dimensional stereotypes would be a problem. Characters that have some of the aspects of the stereotype, but other, less expected characteristics, should work fine. Remember, stereotypes came from somewhere; people didn't just decide to invent them. If you're worried about a mobster seeming stereotypical, give him some endearing quality. (Tony Soprano loved animals.) The hooker with a heart of gold can say all the right things, but show herselfto be uncaring in some way. Have some fun with…
One-dimensional stereotypes would be a problem. Characters that have some of the aspects of the stereotype, but other, less expected characteristics, should work fine. Remember, stereotypes came from somewhere; people didn't just decide to invent them. If you're worried about a mobster seeming stereotypical, give him some endearing quality. (Tony Soprano loved animals.) The hooker with a heart of gold can say all the right things, but show herselfto be uncaring in some way. Have some fun with it. Naomi, thank you!
I'm so para…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595842008-09-10T16:08:05.488Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
Naomi, thank you!<br />
I'm so paranoid--just a bit nuts, questioning too much!<br />
I see and I agree with you.<br />
so glad you replied.
Naomi, thank you!<br />
I'm so paranoid--just a bit nuts, questioning too much!<br />
I see and I agree with you.<br />
so glad you replied. John! Leave it to you to ligh…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595682008-09-10T13:56:57.473Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
John! Leave it to you to light up this (angst ridden on my part) discussion!<br />
REALLY?!<br />
So in other words if you have Mob guys who are Hungarians and not a Madam, but the Queen of the gypsies who did occasionally dip into procuring les femmes for sex-mad fortune-telling clients--THAT might become the cliche?<br />
See, I edited it because I totally confused I.J.!
John! Leave it to you to light up this (angst ridden on my part) discussion!<br />
REALLY?!<br />
So in other words if you have Mob guys who are Hungarians and not a Madam, but the Queen of the gypsies who did occasionally dip into procuring les femmes for sex-mad fortune-telling clients--THAT might become the cliche?<br />
See, I edited it because I totally confused I.J.! Avoiding a cliche can stand o…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595632008-09-10T13:50:45.383ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
Avoiding a cliche can stand out as much as including one.
Avoiding a cliche can stand out as much as including one. sorry, bad phrasing on my par…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595602008-09-10T13:49:35.309Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
sorry, bad phrasing on my part.<br />
I'll edit.<br />
No, what I mean is in this sort of novel there are (minor characters) a former Madam, prostitutes--and a mob guy.<br />
I read so much about not using stereotypes--and so on, that I just got nervous.
sorry, bad phrasing on my part.<br />
I'll edit.<br />
No, what I mean is in this sort of novel there are (minor characters) a former Madam, prostitutes--and a mob guy.<br />
I read so much about not using stereotypes--and so on, that I just got nervous. What's stereotypical about po…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-09-10:537324:Comment:1595522008-09-10T13:29:47.087ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
What's stereotypical about post-war depression? You might as well add post-traumatic stress syndrome. I just used that for an 18th century setting. War is war.
What's stereotypical about post-war depression? You might as well add post-traumatic stress syndrome. I just used that for an 18th century setting. War is war.