Details - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T16:01:24Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:163728?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A163808&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI.J. thanks so much!
Glad I p…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1641432008-10-28T08:51:47.140Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
I.J. thanks so much!<br />
Glad I peeked in!
I.J. thanks so much!<br />
Glad I peeked in! Yup Jude--back in the saddle…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1641412008-10-28T08:51:00.690Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
Yup Jude--back in the saddle "agin."<br />
Hope I don't slip off this time.<br />
thanks and best of luck!!!
Yup Jude--back in the saddle "agin."<br />
Hope I don't slip off this time.<br />
thanks and best of luck!!! all of the above, John!
As I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1641392008-10-28T08:50:04.348Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
all of the above, John!<br />
As I went onto the final draft, I found sections of it that didn't ring right to me--<br />
I was fine and then all of a sudden, I just ran out of steam.<br />
When that happened, I felt depressed! so down--so I got away from it for a while and that seemed to work.<br />
I think the problem was initially that I wrote without a detailed outline. Outlines generally are not something I like--in fact I hate outlining, but I'm not experienced enough novel writing that I shouldn't outline! I…
all of the above, John!<br />
As I went onto the final draft, I found sections of it that didn't ring right to me--<br />
I was fine and then all of a sudden, I just ran out of steam.<br />
When that happened, I felt depressed! so down--so I got away from it for a while and that seemed to work.<br />
I think the problem was initially that I wrote without a detailed outline. Outlines generally are not something I like--in fact I hate outlining, but I'm not experienced enough novel writing that I shouldn't outline! I should. I think beginners need structure.<br />
Fingers crossed--I'm carrying on! Hi Cliff,
I agree. Staying t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1641112008-10-28T02:36:05.697ZJude Hardinhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
Hi Cliff,<br />
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I agree. Staying true to voice is paramount, and adding details is certainly no cure-all for pacing problems. I mostly wanted to emphasize that adding a detail or two here and there--that is, going from the general to the specific--might augment the reading experience through enhanced imagery.
Hi Cliff,<br />
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I agree. Staying true to voice is paramount, and adding details is certainly no cure-all for pacing problems. I mostly wanted to emphasize that adding a detail or two here and there--that is, going from the general to the specific--might augment the reading experience through enhanced imagery. I've dillied and dallied abou…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1640992008-10-28T01:35:14.570ZCliffhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Cliff
I've dillied and dallied about whether I wanted to weigh in. I don't know if I have anything new to say, but ultimately I think it all depends upon what your voice is and how you choose to express it. I liked your added details in your snippets, but at the same time, I'm reluctant to say that adding more details will help with pacing and is a "cure all." Not having read what you wrote, it's hard to say exactly what I think could be the problem, but my gut feeling is that it might need a few…
I've dillied and dallied about whether I wanted to weigh in. I don't know if I have anything new to say, but ultimately I think it all depends upon what your voice is and how you choose to express it. I liked your added details in your snippets, but at the same time, I'm reluctant to say that adding more details will help with pacing and is a "cure all." Not having read what you wrote, it's hard to say exactly what I think could be the problem, but my gut feeling is that it might need a few more scenes placed in. That usually can help with pacing.<br />
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There's plenty of examples of writers who write with detail in crime writing and those who don't. But someone mentioned knowing where and when to put them aka Elmore Leonard, which I think was a great example.<br />
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You just have to find your voice.<br />
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I probably wasn't even helpful.<br />
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But I did stay in a Holiday Inn. Hi Carole,
Thanks for the wo…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-28:537324:Comment:1640942008-10-28T01:12:54.620ZJude Hardinhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
Hi Carole,<br />
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Thanks for the words of encouragement. Glad to hear you're back in the saddle.
Hi Carole,<br />
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Thanks for the words of encouragement. Glad to hear you're back in the saddle. Congrats on getting unblocked…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-27:537324:Comment:1640822008-10-27T21:26:09.616ZJohn Dishonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/whiteskwirl
Congrats on getting unblocked. I've experienced that myself. What was the nature of your block? Was it not knowing what to write or not being able to write, or something else?
Congrats on getting unblocked. I've experienced that myself. What was the nature of your block? Was it not knowing what to write or not being able to write, or something else? Good to have you back, Carole!tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-27:537324:Comment:1640802008-10-27T21:16:57.141ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Good to have you back, Carole!
Good to have you back, Carole! I think you're going to do fi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-27:537324:Comment:1640612008-10-27T18:32:29.221Zcarole gillhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisDietrichson
I think you're going to do fine--at least you didn't get blocked like I did!<br />
yup that's why big mouth (me) has been off of this site for awhile--took me time to get back into it, but I am now thank God!<br />
Jude, you write very well and those rejections were the best kind of rejections, they gave you information in order for you to do it the way they want.<br />
I like what I read--take all the suggestions on board--relating everything to the plot--to the end.<br />
when I read crime fiction I like for the end…
I think you're going to do fine--at least you didn't get blocked like I did!<br />
yup that's why big mouth (me) has been off of this site for awhile--took me time to get back into it, but I am now thank God!<br />
Jude, you write very well and those rejections were the best kind of rejections, they gave you information in order for you to do it the way they want.<br />
I like what I read--take all the suggestions on board--relating everything to the plot--to the end.<br />
when I read crime fiction I like for the end to be pulling me along to a dramatic climax--think of the novels you've read that have blown you away. read the last chapters of those novels and analyze what the author did and how it was done.<br />
you'll do it. You're nearly there! go for it!<br />
best of luck, Jude!!! I think the cinematic term fo…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2008-10-27:537324:Comment:1639952008-10-27T13:49:07.253ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
I think the cinematic term for this is "establishing shot." They show the building, airport, market, stadium, whatever they need to get your head into the setting quickly. The length is often proportional with the importance of the setting in the seene to follow, or to the story as a whole.<br />
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You're right, Jude; everyone does it. It's a necessary form of literary shorthand.
I think the cinematic term for this is "establishing shot." They show the building, airport, market, stadium, whatever they need to get your head into the setting quickly. The length is often proportional with the importance of the setting in the seene to follow, or to the story as a whole.<br />
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You're right, Jude; everyone does it. It's a necessary form of literary shorthand.