Mystery and its definition(s) - CrimeSpace
2024-03-28T09:09:08Z
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LOL. Proves to what ridiculou…
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2007-03-18T20:00:17.271Z
Joy Calderwood
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LOL. Proves to what ridiculous lengths genre-ing can go. <br />
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Is it a good story? Read it.
LOL. Proves to what ridiculous lengths genre-ing can go. <br />
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Is it a good story? Read it.
I have been wondering about t…
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2007-03-11T14:47:53.211Z
Nick Purvis
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I have been wondering about that somewhere below, since for me mystery and thriller are dealing with similar issues, only that one is spotlighting details the others leaves more blurry. Definitely a sea of opinions without clear definitions, I see that now.
I have been wondering about that somewhere below, since for me mystery and thriller are dealing with similar issues, only that one is spotlighting details the others leaves more blurry. Definitely a sea of opinions without clear definitions, I see that now.
Certainly I am not much into…
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2007-03-11T14:46:25.694Z
Nick Purvis
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Certainly I am not much into labelling, but it helps to get some sort of overview what is out there (and embarrassing enough I had to ask someone what exactly amateur sleuth implied) and how people see the genre or non-genre they write in.
Certainly I am not much into labelling, but it helps to get some sort of overview what is out there (and embarrassing enough I had to ask someone what exactly amateur sleuth implied) and how people see the genre or non-genre they write in.
Yes, I always thought that re…
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2007-03-11T14:42:57.395Z
Nick Purvis
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Yes, I always thought that really police investigation/detective novels were crime fiction and that all the other books I was reading were ... Literary (yet a bigger melting pot), at best. By now I would count many of them as mystery, or as carrying crime fiction elements.<br />
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I like the idea of crime fiction/thriller/horror, I have to look into that.<br />
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So thriller is not technically crime fiction?
Yes, I always thought that really police investigation/detective novels were crime fiction and that all the other books I was reading were ... Literary (yet a bigger melting pot), at best. By now I would count many of them as mystery, or as carrying crime fiction elements.<br />
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I like the idea of crime fiction/thriller/horror, I have to look into that.<br />
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So thriller is not technically crime fiction?
Thanks for the list. It makes…
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2007-03-11T14:40:21.707Z
Nick Purvis
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Thanks for the list. It makes me think that mystery can be everything and everything can be mystery, which is rather entertaining to think about.
Thanks for the list. It makes me think that mystery can be everything and everything can be mystery, which is rather entertaining to think about.
See - I think I can relate to…
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2007-03-11T14:39:36.671Z
Nick Purvis
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See - I think I can relate to that since I'd put both, as well as a lot of others, as crime fiction/mystery/mysterious fiction. I'd half figured that there would no definition, only opinions, which is fine, I guess.
See - I think I can relate to that since I'd put both, as well as a lot of others, as crime fiction/mystery/mysterious fiction. I'd half figured that there would no definition, only opinions, which is fine, I guess.
I think crime fiction include…
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2007-03-11T06:17:43.918Z
Steve Allan
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I think crime fiction include stories that feature a crime, or at least the threat of a crime. As for being left out in the rain, well, there are a lot of books on the outer edge of the genre that get dripped on; books that some wouldn't claim as crime fiction like THE GREAT GATSBY or THE CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME, but I would.
I think crime fiction include stories that feature a crime, or at least the threat of a crime. As for being left out in the rain, well, there are a lot of books on the outer edge of the genre that get dripped on; books that some wouldn't claim as crime fiction like THE GREAT GATSBY or THE CURIOUS INCIDENT OF THE DOG IN THE NIGHTTIME, but I would.
Hey, Nick. Try this list on f…
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2007-03-10T20:53:27.618Z
Jack Getze
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Hey, Nick. Try this list on for size. I got it off a mystery website...<br />
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MYSTERY SUBGENRES<br />
Academic - takes place in an academic setting or with characters from academic settings<br />
Adventure<br />
Airlines<br />
Alternate History - Alternate History<br />
Amateur Sleuth - Main character is otherwise employed<br />
Archaeology<br />
Cats - Cats are important to the storyline<br />
Classic<br />
Cozy - Light reading - comfortable - characters more important than crime<br />
Culinary - Chefs, catering, etc<br />
Dark Fantasy - Dark…
Hey, Nick. Try this list on for size. I got it off a mystery website...<br />
<br />
MYSTERY SUBGENRES<br />
Academic - takes place in an academic setting or with characters from academic settings<br />
Adventure<br />
Airlines<br />
Alternate History - Alternate History<br />
Amateur Sleuth - Main character is otherwise employed<br />
Archaeology<br />
Cats - Cats are important to the storyline<br />
Classic<br />
Cozy - Light reading - comfortable - characters more important than crime<br />
Culinary - Chefs, catering, etc<br />
Dark Fantasy - Dark Fantasy<br />
Dinosaurs<br />
Disaster - Story focuses on natural or man-made disaster and the perpetrators<br />
Dogs - Dogs are important to the storyline<br />
Dragons - Books featuring Dragons<br />
Eco-thriller - Ecology is main focus of story line<br />
Espionage - Secret Agents, Government Conspiracies, Spies<br />
Ethnic<br />
FBI - FBI featured<br />
Forensics<br />
Futuristic - Set in Earth's possible future<br />
Gay / Lesbian<br />
Genealogy<br />
Genetic Engineering - Genetic Engineering<br />
Gothic<br />
Government Agency<br />
Government Conspiracy<br />
Gun Control - Mysteries that debate gun control<br />
Hard Boiled<br />
High-Tech<br />
Historical - Set in Earth's Past<br />
Hobbies<br />
Holiday - Holidays are important to the storyline<br />
Holocaust<br />
Horror - Graphic<br />
Horses<br />
How-to Book<br />
Humorous<br />
Inspirational Fiction<br />
Juvenile - Pre High School<br />
Kidnapping<br />
King Arthur - Based on the Legend of King Arthur<br />
Korean War - Korean War<br />
Legal Setting - Lawyers, court-room settings, legal procedurals<br />
Mafia<br />
Magic<br />
Marketing - Marketing<br />
Married Couple<br />
Mech Warriors<br />
Medical<br />
Men's Adventure - Men's Adventure (usually military, espionage, etc)<br />
Mental Illness<br />
Millenium<br />
Monster<br />
Movie Related<br />
Movie Tie In<br />
MultiMedia<br />
Mythology<br />
Nano-Tech - Nano Technology<br />
Nasa - Nasa Related Story<br />
Native American - Native American<br />
Nature<br />
Noir - Dark stories<br />
Occult<br />
Oprah's Book Club - Oprah's Book Club selection<br />
Paranormal - Paranormal (see also Supernatural)<br />
Physics<br />
Picture Book<br />
Poetry<br />
Police Procedural - Depends heavily on current police procedures<br />
Political Commentary - Political Commentary<br />
Political Intrigue - Political Intrigue<br />
Politics - Politics<br />
Post Nuclear War<br />
Prehistoric - Prehistoric<br />
Present Day Science Based - Present Day Science Based<br />
Private Investigator - Self-employed<br />
Psychic<br />
Psychological Suspense<br />
Publishing - Publishing<br />
Reference - Contains reference material<br />
Regional Cooking - Regional Cooking<br />
Religious Cult<br />
Religious Fiction - Religion is important to the storyline<br />
Religious Non-Fiction - non-fiction Religious Works<br />
Robin Hood<br />
Robots<br />
Romance (BBW) - Romances with average or large size women<br />
Romantic Suspense - Romantic involvement of main character in story<br />
SEO - Search Engine Optimization<br />
Sailing<br />
Scientific based - Present-day Scientific based<br />
Secret Service - US Secret Service<br />
Self-Help<br />
Senior Sleuths<br />
Serial Killer<br />
ShapeShifter<br />
Sherlock Holmes<br />
Sociology - Sociology<br />
Southern Style Cooking - Southern Style Cooking<br />
Space<br />
Space Opera<br />
Space Shuttle<br />
SpiderMan<br />
Sports<br />
Star Trek - Star Trek<br />
Star Trek - Enterprise - Star Trek Enterprise<br />
Star Trek DS9 - Star Trek DS9<br />
Star Trek TNG - Star Trek TNG<br />
Star Trek Voyager - Star Trek Voyager<br />
Star Wars - Star Wars<br />
Submarines<br />
Superman<br />
Supernatural - A bit of the supernatural included<br />
Supernatural Detectives - Supernatural Detectives<br />
TV Tie In<br />
Techno Thriller - Tewchnology based Edge-of-your-seat world-may-end<br />
TekWar<br />
Telepathy<br />
Terrorists<br />
Theater<br />
Thriller - Edge-of-your-seat reading<br />
Time Travel - Time Travel<br />
Today Show Book Club Pick<br />
Travel - Travel Books<br />
True Crime<br />
UFOs<br />
Undercover Agent - Undercover Agent<br />
Unions<br />
Vampire - Vampire Fantasy<br />
Veterinarian<br />
Vietnam or Vietnam Vet<br />
WW I - Time setting is WW I<br />
WW II - Time setting is WW II<br />
WW III - World War Three<br />
Werewolves<br />
Witchcraft<br />
Woman Main Character - woman main character<br />
Woman's Resources - Resource books for women<br />
Wonder Woman<br />
Writer's Resources - Info on Writing Books and getting them published<br />
X-Files<br />
X-Men<br />
Xena<br />
Young Adult - In general, ages 11-15<br />
Young Reader - In general, ages 5-10<br />
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hi nick!
i can almost imagin…
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2007-03-10T20:34:30.211Z
Anne Frasier
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hi nick!<br />
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i can almost imagine a chart with mystery at the top and all these branches breaking off into even more branches. and there's no solid definition of any of it. i tend to think of crime fiction as a police procedural where you begin with the crime and most of the book involves solving the murder and catching the killer. but that's really only another branch of crime fiction. crime fiction is an umbrella of its own and can also be broken down. there is also a huge amount of crossover…
hi nick!<br />
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i can almost imagine a chart with mystery at the top and all these branches breaking off into even more branches. and there's no solid definition of any of it. i tend to think of crime fiction as a police procedural where you begin with the crime and most of the book involves solving the murder and catching the killer. but that's really only another branch of crime fiction. crime fiction is an umbrella of its own and can also be broken down. there is also a huge amount of crossover going on right now. my last book was crime fiction/thriller/horror, and to my mind any of those could go under the mystery umbrella.
I think Christa pretty much s…
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2007-03-10T17:00:31.939Z
Robin Burcell
https://crimespace.ning.com/profile/rburcell67
I think Christa pretty much said it all. There is so much overlap. The moment you try to put that mystery in the round hole, someone's gonna write one that fits in the square hole. And when that one hits the shelves, they discover that just because it has four sides, it isn't necessarily at right angles.<br />
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Take the almost age-old mystery vs. thriller discussion. Like "mystery" the word "thriller" has various connotations--depending on who you ask.
I think Christa pretty much said it all. There is so much overlap. The moment you try to put that mystery in the round hole, someone's gonna write one that fits in the square hole. And when that one hits the shelves, they discover that just because it has four sides, it isn't necessarily at right angles.<br />
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Take the almost age-old mystery vs. thriller discussion. Like "mystery" the word "thriller" has various connotations--depending on who you ask.