The PI... Dead or Alive? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T02:09:02Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:50775?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A50808&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSorry, but not a chance. Case…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:510442007-06-26T21:58:42.236ZBrian Thorntonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianThornton
Sorry, but not a chance. Casey Affleck is no Johnny Depp. We always knew Depp had depth (no pun intended) and that he had serious chops as an actor, regardless of the material with which he worked. Affleck? Come on.<br />
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As for Dave White's contribution to this conversation, his statement that PI writing is 'better than ever' is a canard of the first order. By his own admission, Dave White has barely read any of the 'classic' PI fiction of the early, mid and late 20th century (he finds it…
Sorry, but not a chance. Casey Affleck is no Johnny Depp. We always knew Depp had depth (no pun intended) and that he had serious chops as an actor, regardless of the material with which he worked. Affleck? Come on.<br />
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As for Dave White's contribution to this conversation, his statement that PI writing is 'better than ever' is a canard of the first order. By his own admission, Dave White has barely read any of the 'classic' PI fiction of the early, mid and late 20th century (he finds it 'dated'.). Therefore, whether or not PI fiction is 'better than ever,' Dave is not qualified to answer this question because (again, by his own admission) he is steeped in contemporary PI fiction without having bothered to do his homework on the entirety of the genre. As a result, Dave's statement carries no weight, period.<br />
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It's akin to offering an opinion that new PI fiction is/isn't any good without having read Lehane, Connelly, or Crais et. al. I didn't know about that, Har…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:510412007-06-26T21:39:03.188ZJude Hardinhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
I didn't know about that, Harry. I'll have to find a copy of Dennis Lehane's novel now before the movie comes out. Thanks!
I didn't know about that, Harry. I'll have to find a copy of Dennis Lehane's novel now before the movie comes out. Thanks! Gilbert Gottfried duck voice:…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:510242007-06-26T20:21:09.565ZMichael C. Jacobshttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Griftwriter
Gilbert Gottfried duck voice: AFFLACK!
Gilbert Gottfried duck voice: AFFLACK! The PI is not dead. It's just…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509632007-06-26T14:16:48.869ZJochem van der Steenhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/jvdsteen
The PI is not dead. It's just that the mention of a PI is not very 'new' or exciting to people so often they are disguised as undertakers, bounty hunters or cops.<br />
There is a large group of PI lovers however that will always make sure the genre is safe. I try to show on my site <a href="http://www.sonsofspade.tk">www.sonsofspade.tk</a> that there's still lots of good stuff coming out with original takes on the Lone Detective (for instance Mr Clarinet by Nick Stone).<br />
Also, I'm convinced that if…
The PI is not dead. It's just that the mention of a PI is not very 'new' or exciting to people so often they are disguised as undertakers, bounty hunters or cops.<br />
There is a large group of PI lovers however that will always make sure the genre is safe. I try to show on my site <a href="http://www.sonsofspade.tk">www.sonsofspade.tk</a> that there's still lots of good stuff coming out with original takes on the Lone Detective (for instance Mr Clarinet by Nick Stone).<br />
Also, I'm convinced that if it does well the Gone Baby Gone movie will do what Pirates of the Carib. did for pirates. Without context, people (even…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509622007-06-26T14:16:44.746ZGerald Sohttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/gerald986
Without context, people (even writers) won't know where you're coming from. Elaboration without context is rambling.
Without context, people (even writers) won't know where you're coming from. Elaboration without context is rambling. GONE, BABY, GONE is due to hi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509592007-06-26T14:09:39.047ZHarry Hunsickerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/harryhunsicker
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452623/">GONE, BABY, GONE</a> is due to hit theaters in November. <i>Insert Ben Affleck joke here.</i>
<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0452623/">GONE, BABY, GONE</a> is due to hit theaters in November. <i>Insert Ben Affleck joke here.</i> Yeah, but we're writers and w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509522007-06-26T13:31:13.352ZDave Whitehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DaveWhite
Yeah, but we're writers and we're smarter than that. Without a poll people can say yes or no and then take the time to elaborate on it. Context isn't needed for this group... well except maybe John Rickards.
Yeah, but we're writers and we're smarter than that. Without a poll people can say yes or no and then take the time to elaborate on it. Context isn't needed for this group... well except maybe John Rickards. Interesting discussion. I thi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509402007-06-26T12:34:42.513ZBarbara Fisterhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Bfister
Interesting discussion. I think I'm with Donna (except when it comes to shoes. Can't do heels. Ow.) If a book is trying to simply fit a type, it's probably going to be a formulaic dud. If it's a good book, I'm going to go with it no matter what job the protagonist has. If the question is "what sort of crime fiction type will dominate?" .... If I were a publisher I would probably be anxious about that. As a reader (and a writer) it's not that important to me. Less interested in trends than in…
Interesting discussion. I think I'm with Donna (except when it comes to shoes. Can't do heels. Ow.) If a book is trying to simply fit a type, it's probably going to be a formulaic dud. If it's a good book, I'm going to go with it no matter what job the protagonist has. If the question is "what sort of crime fiction type will dominate?" .... If I were a publisher I would probably be anxious about that. As a reader (and a writer) it's not that important to me. Less interested in trends than in individual stories and how well they work.<br />
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I do agree that there's lots of terrific writing going on in this genre. And some of that terrific writing involves PIs. Which would suggest to me they're most likely alive. I was just being a smart ass.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509372007-06-26T12:27:13.194ZBarbara Fisterhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Bfister
I was just being a smart ass. Don't mind me. (I always find those he/she constructions awkward. And PIs, as loners, don't come in packs, so "they" wouldn't work either.)
I was just being a smart ass. Don't mind me. (I always find those he/she constructions awkward. And PIs, as loners, don't come in packs, so "they" wouldn't work either.) Without background, opinions…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-06-26:537324:Comment:509242007-06-26T09:49:55.977ZGerald Sohttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/gerald986
Without background, opinions aren't more honest; they're uninformed. Without background, people can only give their broadest gut reactions, If that's what you want, this should be a yes/no poll.
Without background, opinions aren't more honest; they're uninformed. Without background, people can only give their broadest gut reactions, If that's what you want, this should be a yes/no poll.