"Master Yoda, you can't die." - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T06:02:45Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/537324:Topic:9818?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A9964&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWell, to go with the theme of…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-25:537324:Comment:124672007-03-25T19:27:04.002ZJohn Misakhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMisak
Well, to go with the theme of your title, I was actually shocked when Chewbacca died <br />
in one of the Star Wars novels. Sort of hit me in the gut. <br />
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I've had to kill off a few characters myself and believe it or not, something just <br />
told me it had to happen. It was like I would be doing something wrong if I <br />
didn't. And one of them was a pretty major character.
Well, to go with the theme of your title, I was actually shocked when Chewbacca died <br />
in one of the Star Wars novels. Sort of hit me in the gut. <br />
<br />
I've had to kill off a few characters myself and believe it or not, something just <br />
told me it had to happen. It was like I would be doing something wrong if I <br />
didn't. And one of them was a pretty major character. You're right. Marino was my o…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-23:537324:Comment:107692007-03-23T02:32:13.369ZFM McPhersonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ulfsson
You're right. Marino was my other favorite character (I never found Scarpetta all that appealing I have to say), and she did turn him into a lapdog, which was also a factor in me giving up. Like I said re Firefly -- you can get away with killing a favorite character if there are others to take his place. But Cornwell ruined the other good character, so there was noone appealing enough to hold me.
You're right. Marino was my other favorite character (I never found Scarpetta all that appealing I have to say), and she did turn him into a lapdog, which was also a factor in me giving up. Like I said re Firefly -- you can get away with killing a favorite character if there are others to take his place. But Cornwell ruined the other good character, so there was noone appealing enough to hold me. Yeah, the whole thing with We…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-23:537324:Comment:106992007-03-23T00:40:54.975Znorbyhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/norby871
Yeah, the whole thing with Wesley kind of irked me too. But by that point, I was so ticked at what she'd done with the character of Pete Marino that I was ready to give up anyway. I always felt that he was the one who made the series worth reading and she turned him into a cheap caricature of who he started out to be. In a way, it would have been better if Marino had died.
Yeah, the whole thing with Wesley kind of irked me too. But by that point, I was so ticked at what she'd done with the character of Pete Marino that I was ready to give up anyway. I always felt that he was the one who made the series worth reading and she turned him into a cheap caricature of who he started out to be. In a way, it would have been better if Marino had died. Wash's dying really got to me…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-23:537324:Comment:106942007-03-23T00:30:52.034ZFM McPhersonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ulfsson
Wash's dying really got to me too. And Book. But Wash's was worse because he was "core" crew. And people are right about Whedon killing off people -- wow, it hits you when you lay them all out. He makes up these terrific characters and then kills them. sigh. But he can get away with it I guess, because he has so many other terrific characters.<br />
It's interesting that some deaths just have that great emotional impact, and others can also really piss you off. I used to be a fan of Patricia…
Wash's dying really got to me too. And Book. But Wash's was worse because he was "core" crew. And people are right about Whedon killing off people -- wow, it hits you when you lay them all out. He makes up these terrific characters and then kills them. sigh. But he can get away with it I guess, because he has so many other terrific characters. <br />
It's interesting that some deaths just have that great emotional impact, and others can also really piss you off. I used to be a fan of Patricia Cornwall, but when she killed off Wesley, I was so annoyed with her I stopped reading. Didn't matter that she brought him back later either; as far as I was concerned the damage was done! I think you have to be very careful who you kill off! Oh yeah, Wash dying-but Sheph…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-22:537324:Comment:103172007-03-22T14:44:02.965Znorbyhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/norby871
Oh yeah, Wash dying-but Shepherd Book dying really got me too. <br />
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Joss Whedon's other show's-I was completely gutted when Fred died, and then Wesley, well, I don't even want to talk about it, I loved Wesley. Illyria, turning into Fred for him, oh man.
Oh yeah, Wash dying-but Shepherd Book dying really got me too. <br />
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Joss Whedon's other show's-I was completely gutted when Fred died, and then Wesley, well, I don't even want to talk about it, I loved Wesley. Illyria, turning into Fred for him, oh man. Adriana at the end of Soprano…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-22:537324:Comment:102362007-03-22T11:13:22.836ZLaura Roothttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/mallard
Adriana at the end of Sopranos series 5.
Adriana at the end of Sopranos series 5. Hey, a fellow Browncoat. Wash…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-22:537324:Comment:102192007-03-22T08:53:05.081ZGerald Sohttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/gerald986
Hey, a fellow Browncoat. Wash's death was a shock to me, too, but at the same time not so much. Joss has killed off a lot of characters (Doyle, Tara, Cordelia, Fred, Wesley, Book...).
Hey, a fellow Browncoat. Wash's death was a shock to me, too, but at the same time not so much. Joss has killed off a lot of characters (Doyle, Tara, Cordelia, Fred, Wesley, Book...). The impending death of Shane.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-22:537324:Comment:100912007-03-22T00:07:36.924ZDADavenporthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DADavenport
The impending death of Shane. Wiped me out when I read the book. I was devastated, knowing he was gut-shot and was sure to die. To this day, can't read the book, watch the movie, can't even hear Brandon DeWilde calling out his name.<br />
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Lucy, The Girl played by Lillian Gish in Broken Blossoms. Her terror, trapped in the closet as her fater breaks it down to beat her to death is the most excruciating thing I've ever watched on screen. Than God it was silent. I would have hated hearing those…
The impending death of Shane. Wiped me out when I read the book. I was devastated, knowing he was gut-shot and was sure to die. To this day, can't read the book, watch the movie, can't even hear Brandon DeWilde calling out his name. <br />
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Lucy, The Girl played by Lillian Gish in Broken Blossoms. Her terror, trapped in the closet as her fater breaks it down to beat her to death is the most excruciating thing I've ever watched on screen. Than God it was silent. I would have hated hearing those screams. <br />
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Greta Garbo's in Camille. That woman died the prettiest of any actress I've ever seen <br />
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Randall Patrick McMurphy in One Flew Over The Cukoo's Nest. Billy's, too. The whole freaking book is draining. Colin Dexter killing Morse. I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-21:537324:Comment:100652007-03-21T23:38:12.034ZKaren from AustCrimehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/austcrimefiction
Colin Dexter killing Morse. I understand why. Doesn't help. Still can't get over that final book :)<br />
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Needless to say Death of Dalziel was a torrid experience
Colin Dexter killing Morse. I understand why. Doesn't help. Still can't get over that final book :)<br />
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Needless to say Death of Dalziel was a torrid experience I had to go back to my booksh…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2007-03-21:537324:Comment:99742007-03-21T19:50:59.467ZChrista M. Millerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/christammiller
I had to go back to my bookshelf to remind me of fictional deaths that have gotten to me. Two of the biggest: the deaths of the fathers in THE SHINING (Stephen King) and THE ROAD (Cormac McCarthy). I loved the Kubrick movie based on the former, but it didn't adequately capture the love the father still had for his son, and the enormous sacrifice he made to save Danny. The latter was so subtle. The father died unsure of his son's fate, after he spent the whole book working to protect him.…
I had to go back to my bookshelf to remind me of fictional deaths that have gotten to me. Two of the biggest: the deaths of the fathers in THE SHINING (Stephen King) and THE ROAD (Cormac McCarthy). I loved the Kubrick movie based on the former, but it didn't adequately capture the love the father still had for his son, and the enormous sacrifice he made to save Danny. The latter was so subtle. The father died unsure of his son's fate, after he spent the whole book working to protect him. Powerful, powerful. <br />
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In TV and the movies, there are too many to count. I've been particularly affected by deaths in "28 Days Later" (both of them), "The Descent" (the British ending), "Kill Bill" (Bill), "He Got Game" (the mother in a flashback scene), and nearly everyone who died in "Road to Perdition." <br />
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I haven't had a choice between life and death in fiction, not that profound, but if I did I would go for emotional impact - what would benefit the other characters more? To grow from grief or for their relationship with that character to grow?