Attacking writers on their amazon pages - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T16:00:57Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/attacking-writers-on-their-amazon-pages?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A350074&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI know it might be hard but I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-27:537324:Comment:3504592012-07-27T16:36:57.738ZStacyhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StacyDeanne
<p>I know it might be hard but I think the best thing is to ignore the person. People like this want attention and they get their rocks off by knowing they get to you. If you go on about your business they will soon get bored and leave you alone.</p>
<p><br></br>A lot of people do this online. They bother folks then move on to someone else or maybe, hopefully they get a life one day and stop bothering people altogether.</p>
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<p>Unless this person is really crazy they'll get bored if ignored.…</p>
<p>I know it might be hard but I think the best thing is to ignore the person. People like this want attention and they get their rocks off by knowing they get to you. If you go on about your business they will soon get bored and leave you alone.</p>
<p><br/>A lot of people do this online. They bother folks then move on to someone else or maybe, hopefully they get a life one day and stop bothering people altogether.</p>
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<p>Unless this person is really crazy they'll get bored if ignored. Especially if they are bothering many folks at one time and a lot of them seem to.</p>
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<p>I had an idiot about two years ago who used to leave vulgar and sexual messages on my website guestbook. Every time I deleted them, he'd put them back up. Then I realized after going back and forth doing this, that I was just feeding into his game. So I decided to just let him have his fun and post all he wanted. Guess what he did when I stopped erasing the messages? He went on about his business. He got bored playing with himself just like I knew he would.</p>
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<p>These people just want attention. Believe me, ignoring them works every time. Once they know they can't get to you, they move on.</p>
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<p>Uh, unless they are really a nut. But let's just hope that's not the case. Most of those folks are harmless and just bored so they go around bothering people.</p> Great attitude! That said, ta…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-25:537324:Comment:3501142012-07-25T02:31:48.254ZKaren Dionnehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/KarenDionne
<p>Great attitude! That said, taking the high road doesn't mean we can't be pissed. ;) Nobody likes putting up with stupidity and ignorance!</p>
<p>Great attitude! That said, taking the high road doesn't mean we can't be pissed. ;) Nobody likes putting up with stupidity and ignorance!</p> Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-25:537324:Comment:3500132012-07-25T02:14:06.308ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate it when I can't just reach out and smack people when the mess up.</p>
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<p>I like your attitude about leaving the mess lie. It would be hard for me to do, but I have no doubt you're right.</p>
<p>Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate it when I can't just reach out and smack people when the mess up.</p>
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<p>I like your attitude about leaving the mess lie. It would be hard for me to do, but I have no doubt you're right.</p> Oh no, I wouldn't think of tr…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-25:537324:Comment:3500122012-07-25T00:54:50.340ZKaren Dionnehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/KarenDionne
<p>Oh no, I wouldn't think of trying to get the comments removed. It is what it is, and I believe intelligent people can see through the vitriol of a few folks and make up their own minds as to whether or not they want to read the book.</p>
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<p>The thing you have to remember about putting your work out there is that you have to accept that in doing so, you've given up a measure of control. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of your work, whether it's well-founded or not, and…</p>
<p>Oh no, I wouldn't think of trying to get the comments removed. It is what it is, and I believe intelligent people can see through the vitriol of a few folks and make up their own minds as to whether or not they want to read the book.</p>
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<p>The thing you have to remember about putting your work out there is that you have to accept that in doing so, you've given up a measure of control. Everyone is entitled to their opinion of your work, whether it's well-founded or not, and everyone's entitled to post them - Amazon, the great equalizer. And in the big scheme of things, publishing is so fraught with letdowns and disappointments, unjustifiably bad reviews are only part of the reason a published author needs a thick skin!</p> Funny you should mention the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3502812012-07-24T16:45:11.877ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>Funny you should mention the male/female divide. My "book" has 14 reviews, all 4 or 5 stars. 12 are by women. Makes me think men might be more secure than people say. :-)</p>
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<p>The thing I'm griping about wasn't even on my book. It was on a book by one of my publishers. Accusing her of being a sock puppet for me or the other publisher or something. Wording exactly like the previous such comment by Brian Hoffman. As seen in that link.</p>
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<p>This goes beyond…</p>
<p>Funny you should mention the male/female divide. My "book" has 14 reviews, all 4 or 5 stars. 12 are by women. Makes me think men might be more secure than people say. :-)</p>
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<p>The thing I'm griping about wasn't even on my book. It was on a book by one of my publishers. Accusing her of being a sock puppet for me or the other publisher or something. Wording exactly like the previous such comment by Brian Hoffman. As seen in that link.</p>
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<p>This goes beyond "reviewing". This is an attack that has nothing to do with books or their content.</p>
<p>Similar to what Karen describes.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the kind words. But I don't think it's a good idea to indicate that getting this sort of stalking/vandalism is somehow the writer's fault.</p>
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<p>And I doubt many writers would like the idea that writers should change their writing to prevent attacks from people who don't like it.</p>
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<p>BTW, I don't have any novels out yet. In the works. And I can assure you than the women in them will stick up for themselves just fine.</p>
<p></p> Sorry to hear about the annoy…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3501812012-07-24T16:35:11.768ZW.a. Warnerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/WaWarner
<p>Sorry to hear about the annoyance. Sounds like you're handling well. Perhaps your subject matter hit a little close to home for this reviewer. Maybe your female protagonists should stop sticking up for themselves in your novels? Maybe writing about men having their nuts shot off by a femme fatale makes some (*male) readers uneasy.... I dunno...</p>
<p>Sorry to hear about the annoyance. Sounds like you're handling well. Perhaps your subject matter hit a little close to home for this reviewer. Maybe your female protagonists should stop sticking up for themselves in your novels? Maybe writing about men having their nuts shot off by a femme fatale makes some (*male) readers uneasy.... I dunno...</p> By co-incidence, I just got t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3500052012-07-24T15:07:16.908ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>By co-incidence, I just got this from Shelagh Watkins, of the Published Authors Network</p>
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<blockquote><p><span>The "Badly Behaving Reviewers" thread on the Amazon Kindle Books forum has been deleted. The discussion has moved over to Goodreads, along with the discussion about "Badly Behaving Authors". Earlier today, on Amazon, I checked out a book written by a supporter of self-publishing, which led me to John Locke's book on how to succeed as a self-publisher. I noticed a one star…</span></p>
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<p>By co-incidence, I just got this from Shelagh Watkins, of the Published Authors Network</p>
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<blockquote><p><span>The "Badly Behaving Reviewers" thread on the Amazon Kindle Books forum has been deleted. The discussion has moved over to Goodreads, along with the discussion about "Badly Behaving Authors". Earlier today, on Amazon, I checked out a book written by a supporter of self-publishing, which led me to John Locke's book on how to succeed as a self-publisher. I noticed a one star review. The reviewer claimed he had given only one star because he wanted the review to be read. I checked the reviewer's other reviews. All of them had been given five stars, and all of them were about self-publishing:<br/><br/></span><a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2E3P6WOGALFH/ref=cm_pdp_rev_all?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2E3P6WOGALFH/ref=cm_pdp_rev_all?ie=UTF8&sort_by=MostRecentReview</a><span> </span><span><br/><br/>This type of warped thinking will not affect John Locke's earnings or number of books sold, but it does show how the rating system is being abused. Should Amazon find a new way for reviewers to rate books?</span><span> </span></p>
</blockquote> So it isn't just me?
That mak…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3501792012-07-24T14:26:57.369ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>So it isn't just me?</p>
<p>That makes me feel so... cheap. :-)</p>
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<p>That's worse than what I was whining about, for sure. Knocking people who praise the book????</p>
<p>WHY? Would people do that? It's so weird.</p>
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<p>You were able to get that stuff removed, I hope?</p>
<p>So it isn't just me?</p>
<p>That makes me feel so... cheap. :-)</p>
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<p>That's worse than what I was whining about, for sure. Knocking people who praise the book????</p>
<p>WHY? Would people do that? It's so weird.</p>
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<p>You were able to get that stuff removed, I hope?</p> Interesting. I've never paid…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-24:537324:Comment:3501052012-07-24T11:53:33.940ZKaren Dionnehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/KarenDionne
<p>Interesting. I've never paid much attention to my first novel's one-star reviews. Obviously, the book didn't work for that person for whatever reason, and I have plenty of reviews from others who enjoyed it, so why should I care overmuch about what someone who didn't like it has to say?</p>
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<p>But this discussion prompted me to see if there had been any chatter on my book's Amazon page regarding the reviews, and sure enough, there was. Only on the one-stars, which is interesting in…</p>
<p>Interesting. I've never paid much attention to my first novel's one-star reviews. Obviously, the book didn't work for that person for whatever reason, and I have plenty of reviews from others who enjoyed it, so why should I care overmuch about what someone who didn't like it has to say?</p>
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<p>But this discussion prompted me to see if there had been any chatter on my book's Amazon page regarding the reviews, and sure enough, there was. Only on the one-stars, which is interesting in and of itself, and mainly along the same lines as what you experienced: people claiming I write my own reviews, or get my friends to write them, and challenging the book's endorsements (which actually ends up being an attack on those most excellent writers as much as it is on me).</p>
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<p>I don't know if they're failed writers or not -- they certainly sound jealous and bitter -- but clearly, the folks who didn't like the book feel the need to band together and pile on in order to validate their opinions, whereas the folks who gave the book 3 or more stars are secure in their opinions.</p>
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<p>My second novel has nothing less than a 3-star review, and no chatter. Interesting . . . </p> Really? Awww, I thought I wa…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-07-23:537324:Comment:3501572012-07-23T16:00:55.347ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>Really? Awww, I thought I was special. :-)</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning that, Kevin.</p>
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<p>I'm leaving it as it is for now. With a "better not be a next time" clause. </p>
<p>Really? Awww, I thought I was special. :-)</p>
<p>Thanks for mentioning that, Kevin.</p>
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<p>I'm leaving it as it is for now. With a "better not be a next time" clause. </p>