Banned Books Week - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T11:56:44Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/banned-books-week?x=1&id=537324%3ATopic%3A251185&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWhen most people are in troub…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-06:537324:Comment:2521512010-10-06T09:48:31.487ZCaroline Trippehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CarolineTrippe
<b>When most people are in trouble, they'll try anything to hang onto their families</b><br />
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But Alan, if you love your family, and most of us do wouldn't you want them to stick around whether you were in trouble or not? And what sort of trouble is it that you are referring to here?<br />
And what does hanging onto your family have to do with censorship, exactly? Trying to keep your kids from having open minds, from being curious, and from learning? That's an oppressive kind of love---protection from…
<b>When most people are in trouble, they'll try anything to hang onto their families</b><br />
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But Alan, if you love your family, and most of us do wouldn't you want them to stick around whether you were in trouble or not? And what sort of trouble is it that you are referring to here?<br />
And what does hanging onto your family have to do with censorship, exactly? Trying to keep your kids from having open minds, from being curious, and from learning? That's an oppressive kind of love---protection from imagined threats. Righto!tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-05:537324:Comment:2521272010-10-05T21:35:07.501ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Righto!
Righto! To the extent that Huck Finn…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-05:537324:Comment:2521112010-10-05T15:02:23.911ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
To the extent that Huck Finn gets removed from libraries, it's almost entirely because of Twain's liberal (as in frequent) use of the "n" word. But it's a complete misreading of the book to suggest that it's somehow racist. In fact Twain was one of the first, if not the first, white American writers with the courage to write a friendship between a black and white character, and one in which the black character is fully humanized--Jim is a real, three-dimensional character, not some rank…
To the extent that Huck Finn gets removed from libraries, it's almost entirely because of Twain's liberal (as in frequent) use of the "n" word. But it's a complete misreading of the book to suggest that it's somehow racist. In fact Twain was one of the first, if not the first, white American writers with the courage to write a friendship between a black and white character, and one in which the black character is fully humanized--Jim is a real, three-dimensional character, not some rank 19th-century stereotype. In fact Huck Finn is a scathing critique of the racism of the antebellum south--a must read both as literature and as a historical document. It's a shame that people are so threatened by its language. In Twain's own time, I believ…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-05:537324:Comment:2520972010-10-05T13:25:35.667ZAlbert Tucherhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/AlbertTucher
In Twain's own time, I believe, a major objection to Hucleberry Finn was its depiction of a white-black friendship. The objections have changed, but the novel still manages to anger the excessively orthodox of every generation. Maybe that's one reason why it's such a great book.
In Twain's own time, I believe, a major objection to Hucleberry Finn was its depiction of a white-black friendship. The objections have changed, but the novel still manages to anger the excessively orthodox of every generation. Maybe that's one reason why it's such a great book. the parents aren't well enoug…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-05:537324:Comment:2520702010-10-05T10:50:10.980ZCaroline Trippehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CarolineTrippe
<b>the parents aren't well enough educated either.</b><br />
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Ignorance is our greatest enemy. It breeds fear and literally boundless self-righteousness which in turn annihilates reasonable thinking.
<b>the parents aren't well enough educated either.</b><br />
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Ignorance is our greatest enemy. It breeds fear and literally boundless self-righteousness which in turn annihilates reasonable thinking. Yes, a couple of years ago, a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-04:537324:Comment:2519622010-10-04T14:06:54.314ZJoyce Ann Fugithttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JoyceAnnFugit
Yes, a couple of years ago, a father of a young woman in a high school in Conroe, Texas (Montgomery County--north of Houston--the end point of the great Pine forest that stretches across the southern U.S--an area which many in Houston refer to as "Behind The Pine Curtain." ) publicly demanded that <i>Fahrenheit 451</i> be banned from the school's library because of offensive language (DUH??--was not banned or removed from the library or reading list) To their credit, a few years prior to that,…
Yes, a couple of years ago, a father of a young woman in a high school in Conroe, Texas (Montgomery County--north of Houston--the end point of the great Pine forest that stretches across the southern U.S--an area which many in Houston refer to as "Behind The Pine Curtain." ) publicly demanded that <i>Fahrenheit 451</i> be banned from the school's library because of offensive language (DUH??--was not banned or removed from the library or reading list) To their credit, a few years prior to that, the Director of the Montgomery County Public Library received an ALA award for her successful defense of a banning challenge to an adolescent book in the public library on sexuality. The problem is that the paren…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-04:537324:Comment:2519552010-10-04T13:14:25.987ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
The problem is that the parents aren't well enough educated either. Note the hassles over the Harry Potter books.
The problem is that the parents aren't well enough educated either. Note the hassles over the Harry Potter books. I agree that parents should b…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-10-04:537324:Comment:2519062010-10-04T03:08:36.130ZDawn Marie Morgan-Mercierhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DawnMarieMorganMercier
I agree that parents should be able to decide what is suitable for their child or teen to read, not someone else. What really strikes me as funny, is that To Kill A Mockingbird is #4 on the list yet they teach it to high school students in english. What's with that? LOL
I agree that parents should be able to decide what is suitable for their child or teen to read, not someone else. What really strikes me as funny, is that To Kill A Mockingbird is #4 on the list yet they teach it to high school students in english. What's with that? LOL What we do need more of in th…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-30:537324:Comment:2516962010-09-30T14:13:17.429ZCaroline Trippehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CarolineTrippe
<b>What we do need more of in this country is education, both in schools and in the home.<br />
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We sure do! Seems it's easier said than done...
<b>What we do need more of in this country is education, both in schools and in the home.<br />
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We sure do! Seems it's easier said than done... What I meant to say was that…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-09-30:537324:Comment:2516952010-09-30T14:12:19.942ZCaroline Trippehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CarolineTrippe
What I meant to say was that the subject matter of the book, or how it handles that subject, should not be grounds for exclusion.<br />
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Dana, Well, I thought that's what you meant....thanks for clarifying. :) We are on the same page then. It's unfortunate that those who would ban certain books can't always recognize quality---only content!
What I meant to say was that the subject matter of the book, or how it handles that subject, should not be grounds for exclusion.<br />
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Dana, Well, I thought that's what you meant....thanks for clarifying. :) We are on the same page then. It's unfortunate that those who would ban certain books can't always recognize quality---only content!