Fonts. Seriously. - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T17:35:18Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/fonts-seriously?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A219679&feed=yes&xn_auth=noCourier 12 point it is!
Than…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-13:537324:Comment:2196902009-11-13T19:23:26.054ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Courier 12 point it is!<br />
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Thanks, Robert.
Courier 12 point it is!<br />
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Thanks, Robert. I have four books with St. Ma…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-13:537324:Comment:2196792009-11-13T17:01:56.613ZRobert Gregory Brownehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/RobGregoryBrowne
I have four books with St. Martin's Press, another one with Dutton, coming out in 2011 (the first in a series) and two books under a pen name coming out next year.<br />
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So the short answer is, yes, I'm published. ;)
I have four books with St. Martin's Press, another one with Dutton, coming out in 2011 (the first in a series) and two books under a pen name coming out next year.<br />
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So the short answer is, yes, I'm published. ;) Yes, but are you published? N…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-13:537324:Comment:2196752009-11-13T16:44:18.760ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Yes, but are you published? Not being snarky, I promise.
Yes, but are you published? Not being snarky, I promise. Use 12 pt Courier. The reason…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-12:537324:Comment:2196162009-11-12T23:29:16.329ZRobert Gregory Brownehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/RobGregoryBrowne
Use 12 pt Courier. The reason you want to do this is for accurate word count. The word count built into your word processor is misleading, giving you an exact count rather than a publisher's count.<br />
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By publisher's count, I mean 25 lines to a page, 10 words to a line, or 250 words per page. 400 pages = 100,000 words.<br />
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Now, obviously not every page has 250 words, but remember that publishers count white space as well, so that they can estimate how long the book will be in print. There are…
Use 12 pt Courier. The reason you want to do this is for accurate word count. The word count built into your word processor is misleading, giving you an exact count rather than a publisher's count.<br />
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By publisher's count, I mean 25 lines to a page, 10 words to a line, or 250 words per page. 400 pages = 100,000 words.<br />
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Now, obviously not every page has 250 words, but remember that publishers count white space as well, so that they can estimate how long the book will be in print. There are variables, of course, but the 250 per page count is a good estimate.<br />
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Those who write in TNR are not following the 250 word per page rule, and their count will be off. If you're going to use TNR (or better, Georgia), it's better to raise your font size to 14pt. This way you'll have approximately the same count as a courier manuscript.<br />
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I always submit my manuscripts in Courier and have yet to hear any complaints. Twice, I've asked literary ag…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-07:537324:Comment:2190602009-11-07T15:09:17.078ZKeith thomsonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Keiththomson
Twice, I've asked literary agents about this. Both said, basically: "I'd prefer it if you could just put in it twelve-point Times-Roman." I've also seen screenplays dismissed before so much as a word on page 1 was read because the use of a typeface other than Courier gave the work the equivalent of a stink, or made it seem amateurish. Is this silly? Of course. But it's a market reality. What's the point of giving prospective readers the excuse to shorten the stack in their office?
Twice, I've asked literary agents about this. Both said, basically: "I'd prefer it if you could just put in it twelve-point Times-Roman." I've also seen screenplays dismissed before so much as a word on page 1 was read because the use of a typeface other than Courier gave the work the equivalent of a stink, or made it seem amateurish. Is this silly? Of course. But it's a market reality. What's the point of giving prospective readers the excuse to shorten the stack in their office? Except what is "appropriate"…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-04:537324:Comment:2187932009-11-04T06:46:11.536ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
<i>Except what is "appropriate" is determined by the school board[publisher/agent], in their dress code. So it's more like sending your kid to school in street clothes when she should be wearing her uniform.</i><br />
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Dude. Who's metaphor is this, mine or yours?
<i>Except what is "appropriate" is determined by the school board[publisher/agent], in their dress code. So it's more like sending your kid to school in street clothes when she should be wearing her uniform.</i><br />
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Dude. Who's metaphor is this, mine or yours? Hey, huge is good, for these…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-04:537324:Comment:2187412009-11-04T02:02:45.515ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Hey, huge is good, for these eyes.
Hey, huge is good, for these eyes. Page count isn't so much an i…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-03:537324:Comment:2187352009-11-03T23:54:32.941ZPepper Smithhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Reefrunner
Page count isn't so much an issue if they're using a computer to read it, because they can just hit the button that tells them what the word count is.<br />
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In any case, it's best to do what the agent/editor asks for, because that way they know you were actually paying attention to their guidelines before you sent your manuscript off.
Page count isn't so much an issue if they're using a computer to read it, because they can just hit the button that tells them what the word count is.<br />
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In any case, it's best to do what the agent/editor asks for, because that way they know you were actually paying attention to their guidelines before you sent your manuscript off. Courier is the original newsp…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-03:537324:Comment:2187322009-11-03T23:25:56.175ZJack Getzehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
Courier is the original newspaper font because of the easier word-count (before computers) and space is so important to planning a newspaper page. The five agents I've heard speak of this in the last two years mentioned Courier or New Times Roman, but I think Neil ought to know.<br />
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Personally, I use New Courier (it's even bigger) because it creates the illusion of false productivity, and I need all the encouragement I can get.
Courier is the original newspaper font because of the easier word-count (before computers) and space is so important to planning a newspaper page. The five agents I've heard speak of this in the last two years mentioned Courier or New Times Roman, but I think Neil ought to know.<br />
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Personally, I use New Courier (it's even bigger) because it creates the illusion of false productivity, and I need all the encouragement I can get. Not so much huge as spacey. :)tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-11-03:537324:Comment:2187292009-11-03T21:52:55.863ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Not so much huge as spacey. :)
Not so much huge as spacey. :)