HARPER KILLS COLLINS... WHAT'S NEXT? - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T14:15:27Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/harper-kills-collins-whats?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A182398&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFolks: James Patterson has pu…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-20:537324:Comment:1835492009-02-20T14:12:13.611ZNeil Nyrenhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/NeilNyren
Folks: James Patterson has published many non-thriller books, both fiction and nonfiction, and they've all been successful. So, really, he's not relevant here.
Folks: James Patterson has published many non-thriller books, both fiction and nonfiction, and they've all been successful. So, really, he's not relevant here. Young people, from my experie…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-20:537324:Comment:1834532009-02-20T03:32:38.218ZPamela Milekhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PamelaMilek
Young people, from my experience, are more than willing to pay $20 for the Stephanie Meyer books, Harry Potter, $10 for Manga etc. I do not believe the cost of a book plays into the young persons desire to read.
Young people, from my experience, are more than willing to pay $20 for the Stephanie Meyer books, Harry Potter, $10 for Manga etc. I do not believe the cost of a book plays into the young persons desire to read. I think what actually happens…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-19:537324:Comment:1833792009-02-19T21:46:51.771ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I think what actually happens is that Patterson's publisher is so happy with him that they'll publish anything he writes. And Patterson can go to another big house if he wants to. I do hope he's not whining that the publisher forces him to write crap.
I think what actually happens is that Patterson's publisher is so happy with him that they'll publish anything he writes. And Patterson can go to another big house if he wants to. I do hope he's not whining that the publisher forces him to write crap. The issue is Pressure. Pressu…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-19:537324:Comment:1833732009-02-19T21:12:37.301ZB.R.Statehamhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
The issue is Pressure. Pressure by a publisher over the idea an established author would think of trying something totally different. Yes, Patterson or any one, for that matter, could go to a smaller publisher to get this new concept out. But, on the other hand, could he? Would trying something different--and assuming both contracted publishing house and contracted agent were against this move--not put the brakes on a prospective author?
The issue is Pressure. Pressure by a publisher over the idea an established author would think of trying something totally different. Yes, Patterson or any one, for that matter, could go to a smaller publisher to get this new concept out. But, on the other hand, could he? Would trying something different--and assuming both contracted publishing house and contracted agent were against this move--not put the brakes on a prospective author? I'm not quite sure I understa…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-16:537324:Comment:1825012009-02-16T14:24:52.384ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I'm not quite sure I understand the Patterson example. Just what is forcing him to write what his publisher wants? Even if he's under contract, he surely is wealthy enough to buy himself out.
I'm not quite sure I understand the Patterson example. Just what is forcing him to write what his publisher wants? Even if he's under contract, he surely is wealthy enough to buy himself out. Linton,
Most of us want to wr…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-16:537324:Comment:1824902009-02-16T12:53:07.525ZB.R.Statehamhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
Linton,<br />
Most of us want to write for money--but when you get the success of a James Patterson, I don't think money comes into the equation. Sometimes you want to write to please yourself and to explore new realms. And publishers, agents, being who they are, really are afraid of change.
Linton,<br />
Most of us want to write for money--but when you get the success of a James Patterson, I don't think money comes into the equation. Sometimes you want to write to please yourself and to explore new realms. And publishers, agents, being who they are, really are afraid of change. Conan Doyle comes to mind; he…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-16:537324:Comment:1824632009-02-16T02:37:37.281ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
Conan Doyle comes to mind; he was so desperate to be done with Holmes and get back to his true love--historical novels--that he killed him off in "The Adventure of the Final Problem." After great public outcry and the offer of big advances from his publisher--combined with piss-poor sales of the historical pieces--Conan Doyle was "forced" to revive Holmes for another lengthy run. I'm also reminded of a friend of mine--a much celebrated literary writer of color--whose editor flatly rejected his…
Conan Doyle comes to mind; he was so desperate to be done with Holmes and get back to his true love--historical novels--that he killed him off in "The Adventure of the Final Problem." After great public outcry and the offer of big advances from his publisher--combined with piss-poor sales of the historical pieces--Conan Doyle was "forced" to revive Holmes for another lengthy run. I'm also reminded of a friend of mine--a much celebrated literary writer of color--whose editor flatly rejected his first novel (part of a two-book, collection/novel deal) because it was about white people; not the novel his audience wanted, he was told. So there's all kinds of weird pressure on writers from various quarters--none of it new, really. No less than James Patterson…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-16:537324:Comment:1824462009-02-16T01:49:47.818ZB.R.Statehamhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
No less than James Patterson said he was being forced to write only his style of of mystery/thrillers. In an interview earlier this summer he told his publisher he wanted to write something entirely different--including the possibility of a children's boo--and his publisher openly wondered if anyone would buy it.
No less than James Patterson said he was being forced to write only his style of of mystery/thrillers. In an interview earlier this summer he told his publisher he wanted to write something entirely different--including the possibility of a children's boo--and his publisher openly wondered if anyone would buy it. Well stated, I.J.
BTW. Linto…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-16:537324:Comment:1824402009-02-16T00:51:20.094ZChristopher Valenhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ChristopherValen
Well stated, I.J.<br />
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BTW. Linton mentioned Steven King. I recall that in his best selling novel, "Misery" King wrote about a fiction writer who got fed up cranking out books about Misery and decided to kill her off. Anyone who has read the book or seen the movie knows what happened the writer. I think King was, in his own special way, making a statement about the publishing business.
Well stated, I.J.<br />
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BTW. Linton mentioned Steven King. I recall that in his best selling novel, "Misery" King wrote about a fiction writer who got fed up cranking out books about Misery and decided to kill her off. Anyone who has read the book or seen the movie knows what happened the writer. I think King was, in his own special way, making a statement about the publishing business. Well, clearly it works both w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-02-15:537324:Comment:1823982009-02-15T22:56:52.518ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Well, clearly it works both ways. Both publisher and agent are going to be pushing to continue the best-selling model. Sometimes contractual obligations force the author to comply. However, he can also sell (perhaps for less money and to another publisher) books he had never expected to publish until his success with the other book. This, I think, happened with Alexander McCall Smith, for example.
Well, clearly it works both ways. Both publisher and agent are going to be pushing to continue the best-selling model. Sometimes contractual obligations force the author to comply. However, he can also sell (perhaps for less money and to another publisher) books he had never expected to publish until his success with the other book. This, I think, happened with Alexander McCall Smith, for example.