Here is one reason why I think Lit Agents have no clue . . . - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T02:30:07Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/here-is-one-reason-why-i-think?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A245754&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI don't think he tried hard e…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-15:537324:Comment:2463152010-08-15T02:44:47.355ZSteven K Brownhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StevenKBrown
I don't think he tried hard enough. Fifty-four is not enough rejections. I think around 120 rejections on a manuscript is more like it. Still, getting an agent is difficult, but not impossible if the material is good.
I don't think he tried hard enough. Fifty-four is not enough rejections. I think around 120 rejections on a manuscript is more like it. Still, getting an agent is difficult, but not impossible if the material is good. Michael Moore citing the Swed…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457672010-08-10T18:01:14.179ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Michael Moore citing the Swedish film on THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO as an example of a smart film doing well is a bit disingenuous. That did well because the book is a major bestseller and because presumably it contains scenes of sexual sadism.
Michael Moore citing the Swedish film on THE GIRL WITH THE DRAGON TATTOO as an example of a smart film doing well is a bit disingenuous. That did well because the book is a major bestseller and because presumably it contains scenes of sexual sadism. This is not about agents or p…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457622010-08-10T16:37:47.324ZB.R.Statehamhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
This is not about agents or publishers, but it's related. Related in that few people are willing to take risks.<br />
<a href="http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/10/michael-moore-hollywood-movies/" target="_blank">http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/10/michael-moore-hollywood-movies/</a>
This is not about agents or publishers, but it's related. Related in that few people are willing to take risks.<br />
<a href="http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/10/michael-moore-hollywood-movies/" target="_blank">http://www.popeater.com/2010/08/10/michael-moore-hollywood-movies/</a> One thing that gets too often…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457592010-08-10T15:48:36.021ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
One thing that gets too often overlooked is the importance of timing. A writer looking to hit it big can't afford to be behind the curve of popular taste, nor too far in front of it, when people aren't ready. I read the first four Harry Potter books and liked them pretty well. (By Number Four she had to invest too much expository time giving her readers what they wanted as a ramp-up, so I stopped.) She's sure as hell a better writer than Dan Brown. Still, the same agent could have picked her…
One thing that gets too often overlooked is the importance of timing. A writer looking to hit it big can't afford to be behind the curve of popular taste, nor too far in front of it, when people aren't ready. I read the first four Harry Potter books and liked them pretty well. (By Number Four she had to invest too much expository time giving her readers what they wanted as a ramp-up, so I stopped.) She's sure as hell a better writer than Dan Brown. Still, the same agent could have picked her upand pitched her to the same editors one year earlier and had bupkes to show for it. Timing is everything, and we really don't have much control over it. This is a good point--althoug…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457562010-08-10T15:28:49.096ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
This is a good point--although mostly agents reject books because they think they're crap. Took me something like three years to find my agent, and that was through a referral from a friend she was representing. Even then she wouldn't take the project on without major revisions. Patience is key.
This is a good point--although mostly agents reject books because they think they're crap. Took me something like three years to find my agent, and that was through a referral from a friend she was representing. Even then she wouldn't take the project on without major revisions. Patience is key. I don't think a writer should…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457542010-08-10T15:18:16.568ZPhyllis J. Towzeyhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/PhyllisJTowzey
I don't think a writer should take it as an insult if an agent declines to represent their project. You need to find an agent who loves the material, and has the right contacts for that particular project. If an agent declines a project, it doesn't mean they think it's bad, it just means they either don't love it enough to put their resources behind it, or aren't confident that they can sell it. I've been looking for an agent for about two years now, and haven't yet found the right match. I'm…
I don't think a writer should take it as an insult if an agent declines to represent their project. You need to find an agent who loves the material, and has the right contacts for that particular project. If an agent declines a project, it doesn't mean they think it's bad, it just means they either don't love it enough to put their resources behind it, or aren't confident that they can sell it. I've been looking for an agent for about two years now, and haven't yet found the right match. I'm not discouraged, though. In this business, I think you have to be in it for the long haul. Yeah, one could make a rather…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457512010-08-10T14:48:01.148ZB.R.Statehamhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BRStateham
Yeah, one could make a rather large, and rather impessive, list of authors who were rejected multiple times by agents. Enough to think it's not an isolated issue. If that's true, it surely would register on both publishers and agents that perhaps they should reconsider their criteria on how they select material.
Yeah, one could make a rather large, and rather impessive, list of authors who were rejected multiple times by agents. Enough to think it's not an isolated issue. If that's true, it surely would register on both publishers and agents that perhaps they should reconsider their criteria on how they select material. "I bet those folks are biting…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457492010-08-10T14:05:11.544ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
"I bet those folks are biting their toes off right now."<br />
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That's my image of the week! Love it.
"I bet those folks are biting their toes off right now."<br />
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That's my image of the week! Love it. I think J.K. Rowling said ove…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457192010-08-10T03:47:41.281ZStacyhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/StacyDeanne
I think J.K. Rowling said over 100 agents rejected her novel. Boy I bet those folks are biting their toes off right now. Sometimes it pays to take a chance on something new. I remember an interview she did when HP first became big. She said most of the people who rejected her said, "No one wants to read about boy wizards." (Coughing) oh obviously about oh millions and millions do.<br />
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When you look at the folks who get passed over and become super in the literary game, makes me wanna say B.R. has…
I think J.K. Rowling said over 100 agents rejected her novel. Boy I bet those folks are biting their toes off right now. Sometimes it pays to take a chance on something new. I remember an interview she did when HP first became big. She said most of the people who rejected her said, "No one wants to read about boy wizards." (Coughing) oh obviously about oh millions and millions do.<br />
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When you look at the folks who get passed over and become super in the literary game, makes me wanna say B.R. has a big point. But then again it all comes to taste of the agents. HP might not have gotten so big if someone else had accepted her but still, I bet those agents were pissed afterwards, LOL!<br />
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<a href="http://www.stacy-deanne.net" target="_blank">http://www.stacy-deanne.net</a> novels are rejected for busin…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-08-10:537324:Comment:2457162010-08-10T02:52:50.741ZJessicahttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Jessica
<i>novels are rejected for business reasons or because the person didn't get it.</i><br />
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Both JK Rowling and Dr Seuss were repeatedly turned down because agents and editors believed there was no market for their style of book. I love it when the longshot comes back to shove it in the face of everyone who doubted them!
<i>novels are rejected for business reasons or because the person didn't get it.</i><br />
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Both JK Rowling and Dr Seuss were repeatedly turned down because agents and editors believed there was no market for their style of book. I love it when the longshot comes back to shove it in the face of everyone who doubted them!