Old Guys Rule--But Can They Get an Agent? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T15:57:02Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/old-guys-rule-but-can-they-get-an-agent?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A312407&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI agree with Brian. Agents ar…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-24:537324:Comment:3159892011-09-24T15:26:17.285ZDavid DeLeehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DavidDeLee
<p>I agree with Brian. Agents are part of the old model and can no longer help authors.</p>
<p>Submit your work directly to editors who can buy your work, then, when a contract comes your way, hire a good IP attorney for a flat rate fee to help you review and negotiate the contract.</p>
<p>As for age. Fifty is young for writers. If you send an editor a story they like, they'll buy it. Age will not be a factor, especially middle age.</p>
<p>As for traditional publishing being done and out -- I'm…</p>
<p>I agree with Brian. Agents are part of the old model and can no longer help authors.</p>
<p>Submit your work directly to editors who can buy your work, then, when a contract comes your way, hire a good IP attorney for a flat rate fee to help you review and negotiate the contract.</p>
<p>As for age. Fifty is young for writers. If you send an editor a story they like, they'll buy it. Age will not be a factor, especially middle age.</p>
<p>As for traditional publishing being done and out -- I'm not there yet. I think there will be a few more years of shaking things out, (same with book stores, and depending on what that model ends up looking like) but I think they will be around and be an important part of the publishing picture for some time to come. Just different.</p>
<p>David DeLee</p>
<p>Fatal Destiny - a Grace deHaviland novel</p> :) I was older than that, but…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-22:537324:Comment:3156502011-09-22T19:45:39.035ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
:) I was older than that, but then my agent is close to my age. Very good luck to you, Minerva.
:) I was older than that, but then my agent is close to my age. Very good luck to you, Minerva. Well, I'm not a guy, but I'm…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-22:537324:Comment:3156032011-09-22T19:29:44.574ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Well, I'm not a guy, but I'm fixing to turn 51 and just sent my first novel to an agent a couple of weeks ago. So, I'll let you know.
Well, I'm not a guy, but I'm fixing to turn 51 and just sent my first novel to an agent a couple of weeks ago. So, I'll let you know. Yep.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-01:537324:Comment:3128762011-09-01T15:07:13.270ZMary McFarlandhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MaryMcFarland
Yep.
Yep. Yep. I don't think age matte…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-01:537324:Comment:3128752011-09-01T15:06:58.008ZMary McFarlandhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MaryMcFarland
<p>Yep. I don't think age matters, unless as I.J. says, you're writing a series and you're eighty-two and pressin' . . .</p>
<p>Yep. I don't think age matters, unless as I.J. says, you're writing a series and you're eighty-two and pressin' . . .</p> Eric, it (agent glut) needed…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-01:537324:Comment:3129092011-09-01T15:05:36.443ZMary McFarlandhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/MaryMcFarland
Eric, it (agent glut) needed a good paring down, anyway. Ebooks make us all work harder and compete better. I can't wait to try.
Eric, it (agent glut) needed a good paring down, anyway. Ebooks make us all work harder and compete better. I can't wait to try. Not if they've got a great ma…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-09-01:537324:Comment:3128032011-09-01T01:05:27.486ZJack Getzehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
Not if they've got a great manuscript.
Not if they've got a great manuscript. When you send a query to an a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-08-31:537324:Comment:3127472011-08-31T15:29:08.060ZGloria Ferrishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/GloriaFerris
When you send a query to an agent, you don't usually mention your age. Why would you? So you are accepted or rejected on your work or your submission letter. Usually they don't even reject you; they just don't bother to answer, 'cause they're just too darn busy, don't you know. I've had one or two polite refusals by email, by none by actual letter, the majority just black holes of silence. Anyway, my book was finally accepted directly by a publisher. I agree they might come in handy for foreign…
When you send a query to an agent, you don't usually mention your age. Why would you? So you are accepted or rejected on your work or your submission letter. Usually they don't even reject you; they just don't bother to answer, 'cause they're just too darn busy, don't you know. I've had one or two polite refusals by email, by none by actual letter, the majority just black holes of silence. Anyway, my book was finally accepted directly by a publisher. I agree they might come in handy for foreign rights, movie rights, etc. but by then you've been published and an agent just might look at you then. Of course, there are always exceptions. Oh, I love my foreign rights.…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-08-29:537324:Comment:3125352011-08-29T20:48:01.943ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Oh, I love my foreign rights. And I do need them. At least one of my foreign publishers has given me more support than I ever got from the two big U.S. houses.
Oh, I love my foreign rights. And I do need them. At least one of my foreign publishers has given me more support than I ever got from the two big U.S. houses. I was unclear. They dying in…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2011-08-28:537324:Comment:3124072011-08-28T17:34:01.856ZBrian Hoffmanhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianHoffman
I was unclear. They dying industry is traditional publishing for crime fiction. I agree that agents will adapt. I just don't see a need for them unless they are negotiating foreign rights or film rights and I'm no where near needing those.
I was unclear. They dying industry is traditional publishing for crime fiction. I agree that agents will adapt. I just don't see a need for them unless they are negotiating foreign rights or film rights and I'm no where near needing those.