Publisher's to Hold Back E-Books - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T07:50:36Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/publishers-to-hold-back-ebooks?id=537324%3ATopic%3A222070&feed=yes&xn_auth=noIt may be that certain promot…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-14:537324:Comment:2224242009-12-14T14:53:16.442ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
It may be that certain promotional aspects fall under the special care of an editor and/or house.<br />
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And yes, everyone seems to want the quick buck up front.
It may be that certain promotional aspects fall under the special care of an editor and/or house.<br />
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And yes, everyone seems to want the quick buck up front. Doug, when agents send us auc…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-14:537324:Comment:2224202009-12-14T14:14:01.445ZNeil Nyrenhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/NeilNyren
Doug, when agents send us auction letters, most of the time they put in a line welcoming promotion plans as part of the agent/author's final considerations. But the vast majority of the time, I've found that the prime -- often the sole -- consideration is the money offered, followed by the identity and fit of the particular editor and house involved. It's pretty rare when we actually discuss promotional plans at the time of sale.
Doug, when agents send us auction letters, most of the time they put in a line welcoming promotion plans as part of the agent/author's final considerations. But the vast majority of the time, I've found that the prime -- often the sole -- consideration is the money offered, followed by the identity and fit of the particular editor and house involved. It's pretty rare when we actually discuss promotional plans at the time of sale. Why cling to overhead? If Sub…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-14:537324:Comment:2223992009-12-14T03:13:14.674ZBenjamin Sobieckhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
Why cling to overhead? If Subway found a way to eliminate the bread from its expenses, wouldn't it do it?
Why cling to overhead? If Subway found a way to eliminate the bread from its expenses, wouldn't it do it? I just emailed my agent and a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2223802009-12-13T21:19:24.801Zdoug andersonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/douganderson
I just emailed my agent and asked if the publisher's willingness to promote the book was a bargaining chip and she said definitely. This would especially be true if a book deal was at the auction stage. I'm hoping my next book will receive more attention in that manner.
I just emailed my agent and asked if the publisher's willingness to promote the book was a bargaining chip and she said definitely. This would especially be true if a book deal was at the auction stage. I'm hoping my next book will receive more attention in that manner. Thanks, Neil. 30K is the ball…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2223572009-12-13T16:40:46.104ZEdward G. Talbothttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/EdwardGTalbot
Thanks, Neil. 30K is the ballpark I was imagining. Would you say there are fewer fiction titles selling 30K in hardcover these days? It seems like there might be fewer fiction hardcover titles period than there were 15 years ago.
Thanks, Neil. 30K is the ballpark I was imagining. Would you say there are fewer fiction titles selling 30K in hardcover these days? It seems like there might be fewer fiction hardcover titles period than there were 15 years ago. Thanks, Neil.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2223462009-12-13T15:33:45.076ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Thanks, Neil.
Thanks, Neil. "Midlist" usually refers to s…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2223452009-12-13T15:31:56.232ZNeil Nyrenhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/NeilNyren
"Midlist" usually refers to sales numbers rather than to any particular type of book. As to what those numbers are, there's nothing hard and set, and they can vary from house to house. For me personally, I tend to think of midlist (in hardcover) as from mid-teens to about 30K, but as I say, others will have different definitions.<br />
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I.J., we usually don't discuss promotion with the agent at the time of sale, though it can happen. Later on, when we're actually planning the book, we'll get all the…
"Midlist" usually refers to sales numbers rather than to any particular type of book. As to what those numbers are, there's nothing hard and set, and they can vary from house to house. For me personally, I tend to think of midlist (in hardcover) as from mid-teens to about 30K, but as I say, others will have different definitions.<br />
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I.J., we usually don't discuss promotion with the agent at the time of sale, though it can happen. Later on, when we're actually planning the book, we'll get all the departments together and pull together the plans in detail, swapping ideas to get the best fit for the book. Yes, midlist are general fict…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2223432009-12-13T15:28:55.405ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Yes, midlist are general fiction books that get moderate to modest sales. There used to be the "long tail" theory, which implied (I think) that the large numbers of midlist titles taken together made them profitable for the publisher. My guess is that midlist gets pruned periodically to increase its profits.
Yes, midlist are general fiction books that get moderate to modest sales. There used to be the "long tail" theory, which implied (I think) that the large numbers of midlist titles taken together made them profitable for the publisher. My guess is that midlist gets pruned periodically to increase its profits. I have actually never heard t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-13:537324:Comment:2222952009-12-13T00:59:46.790ZEdward G. Talbothttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/EdwardGTalbot
I have actually never heard that midlist means serious fiction. I thought it had to do with authors who are not top best-sellers but sell well enough to have repeated books printed over time. It may very well be that quite a bit of serious fiction ends up falling into the category, though. I suspect a lot of serious fiction falls into a lesser category as well.<br />
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We'll see what Neil has to say.
I have actually never heard that midlist means serious fiction. I thought it had to do with authors who are not top best-sellers but sell well enough to have repeated books printed over time. It may very well be that quite a bit of serious fiction ends up falling into the category, though. I suspect a lot of serious fiction falls into a lesser category as well.<br />
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We'll see what Neil has to say. My understanding of midlist i…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-12-12:537324:Comment:2222932009-12-12T23:54:00.797Zdoug andersonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/douganderson
My understanding of midlist is "mainstream" or serious fiction along the lines of Joyce Carol Oates. It's another one of those categories that are becoming irrelevant. I guess what defines midlist books is an anticipated smaller audience and print run than say, Wally Lamb, who is straddling midlist and popular.
My understanding of midlist is "mainstream" or serious fiction along the lines of Joyce Carol Oates. It's another one of those categories that are becoming irrelevant. I guess what defines midlist books is an anticipated smaller audience and print run than say, Wally Lamb, who is straddling midlist and popular.