Two Jakes: Why Forgotten? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T14:14:53Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/two-jakes-why-forgotten?id=537324%3ATopic%3A345902&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThe Two Jakes is a good movie…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-26:537324:Comment:3476772012-06-26T22:36:32.649ZBrian Hoffmanhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BrianHoffman
<p>The Two Jakes is a good movie, but Chinatown has a depth of story telling that is far more compelling. Personally, I'd suggest watching them both.</p>
<p>The Two Jakes is a good movie, but Chinatown has a depth of story telling that is far more compelling. Personally, I'd suggest watching them both.</p> I bet you're right about the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-20:537324:Comment:3462902012-06-20T15:20:07.068ZJackson Burnetthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacksonBurnett
<p>I bet you're right about the HBO series, John. It seems like movies with action heroes are successful movie series, but not others.</p>
<p>I bet you're right about the HBO series, John. It seems like movies with action heroes are successful movie series, but not others.</p> Still, I get the feeling that…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3463652012-06-19T16:49:52.877ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
<p>Still, I get the feeling that if Nicholson and Towne were young guys today they'd look at Jake Gittes as the lead in an HBO series and make the first season the "water," the second the, "energy," the third the, "Hughes," and so on.</p>
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<p>Still, I get the feeling that if Nicholson and Towne were young guys today they'd look at Jake Gittes as the lead in an HBO series and make the first season the "water," the second the, "energy," the third the, "Hughes," and so on.</p>
<p> </p> Good point, John. THE TWO JAK…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3464962012-06-19T16:45:34.047ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
<p>Good point, John. THE TWO JAKES is also a "small" movie, not intended as a blockbuster, a movie you had to pay attention to. Might have been better serves by coming out in the spring or fall, regardless of what else premiered around it.</p>
<p>Good point, John. THE TWO JAKES is also a "small" movie, not intended as a blockbuster, a movie you had to pay attention to. Might have been better serves by coming out in the spring or fall, regardless of what else premiered around it.</p> Harvey Keitel is a personal f…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3463642012-06-19T16:44:13.069ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
<p>Harvey Keitel is a personal favorite of mine. One of the few actors who can push me over the fence on whether to see a movie or not.</p>
<p>Harvey Keitel is a personal favorite of mine. One of the few actors who can push me over the fence on whether to see a movie or not.</p> Yeah, Wikipedia's a wonderful…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3462762012-06-19T16:12:38.906ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
<p>Yeah, Wikipedia's a wonderful thing ;)</p>
<p>Timing and luck have a lot to do with how a movie is received. I remember when "Devil in a Blue Dress" was released and flopped there were all kinds of theories about was wrong with it but then someone (maybe Denzel Washington) said that it was possible not many people were in the mood for a movie with a black guy as the hero on the weekend of the LA riots.</p>
<p>So now I see that "The Two Jakes" was released in August of 1990 when the big hits…</p>
<p>Yeah, Wikipedia's a wonderful thing ;)</p>
<p>Timing and luck have a lot to do with how a movie is received. I remember when "Devil in a Blue Dress" was released and flopped there were all kinds of theories about was wrong with it but then someone (maybe Denzel Washington) said that it was possible not many people were in the mood for a movie with a black guy as the hero on the weekend of the LA riots.</p>
<p>So now I see that "The Two Jakes" was released in August of 1990 when the big hits were "Total Recall," "Die Hard 2," "Robocop 2," "Ghost," and "Presumed Innocent." A month later "Goodfellas" was released.</p>
<p>Maybe "The Two Jakes" just got lost among the summer movies that year. Too bad.</p>
<p> </p> Thanks for the research. Chi…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3464952012-06-19T15:28:24.642ZJackson Burnetthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacksonBurnett
<p>Thanks for the research. <em>Chinatown</em> is about as well-crafted noir that I've seen. Nicholson would be difficult to work with. Can you imagine Jake Gittis in 1968?</p>
<p>Thanks for the research. <em>Chinatown</em> is about as well-crafted noir that I've seen. Nicholson would be difficult to work with. Can you imagine Jake Gittis in 1968?</p> Dana, that was the point. Th…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3460252012-06-19T15:24:14.487ZJackson Burnetthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacksonBurnett
<p>Dana, that was the point. <em>The Two Jakes</em> was good as a stand-alone movie. I thought Harvey Keitel did a superb job.</p>
<p>Dana, that was the point. <em>The Two Jakes</em> was good as a stand-alone movie. I thought Harvey Keitel did a superb job.</p> Kind of like McMurtry should…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-19:537324:Comment:3462722012-06-19T15:22:09.564ZJackson Burnetthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JacksonBurnett
<p>Kind of like McMurtry should not have written a sequel to <em>Lonesome Dove</em> (or most of his other sequels as well).</p>
<p>Kind of like McMurtry should not have written a sequel to <em>Lonesome Dove</em> (or most of his other sequels as well).</p> Found this on Wikipedia:
Rob…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-06-18:537324:Comment:3460112012-06-18T20:10:25.749ZJack Getzehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JGetze
<p>Found this on Wikipedia: </p>
<p>Robert Towne expressed his disappointment in <i>The Two Jakes</i> in many interviews.<sup class="Template-Fact">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from December 2010">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> He told writer Alex Simon "In the interest of maintaining my friendships with Jack Nicholson and Robert Evans, I’d rather not go…</p>
<p>Found this on Wikipedia: </p>
<p>Robert Towne expressed his disappointment in <i>The Two Jakes</i> in many interviews.<sup class="Template-Fact">[<i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" title="Wikipedia:Citation needed"><span title="This claim needs references to reliable sources from December 2010">citation needed</span></a></i>]</sup> He told writer Alex Simon "In the interest of maintaining my friendships with Jack Nicholson and Robert Evans, I’d rather not go into it, but let’s just say <i>The Two Jakes</i> wasn’t a pleasant experience for any of us. But, we’re all still friends, and that’s what matters most."<sup id="cite_ref-10" class="reference"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Towne#cite_note-10"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a></sup></p>
<p>In a November 5, 2007 interview with MTV, Jack Nicholson revealed that Towne had written the part of Gittes specifically for him. In the same interview, Nicholson also revealed that Towne had conceived <i>Chinatown</i> as a trilogy and that the third film was to be set in 1968 and deal in some way with Howard Hughes.</p>
<p>I agree Tequila Sunrise sucked. But his credits include many good films, and he was known for getting called in late to fix scripts like Bonnie and Clyde. Looking at all the credits though, I guess CHINATOWN was my favorite.</p>