Used E-Books - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T16:05:04Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/used-e-books?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A367927&feed=yes&xn_auth=noOops. you're right. I counted…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680352013-02-21T21:57:23.720ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
<p>Oops. you're right. I counted that dollar twice.</p>
<p>Oops. you're right. I counted that dollar twice.</p> Wait a minute! Separate the d…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3679272013-02-21T21:49:00.678ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Wait a minute! Separate the deals. They made 5 dollars on the first one.</p>
<p>On the second, they spent 1 dollar but made 2 dollars. Altogether that's 7 dollars.</p>
<p>But this game goes on, because presumably they can buy a book back forever. And we are talking millions of sales.</p>
<p>Wait a minute! Separate the deals. They made 5 dollars on the first one.</p>
<p>On the second, they spent 1 dollar but made 2 dollars. Altogether that's 7 dollars.</p>
<p>But this game goes on, because presumably they can buy a book back forever. And we are talking millions of sales.</p> "t's hardly enough money to w…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3681712013-02-21T18:19:33.739ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
<p><em>"t's hardly enough money to worry about, especially since any used sale would definitely be a sales loss for the new ebooks."</em></p>
<p><span>That doesn't matter if all they're more concerned about dollars then volume of units. Let's say Amazon pays a publisher 5.00 and sells the book for 10; they make five dollars. The reader sells it back to Amazon for a buck; Amazon's net is down to four. But when they re-sell it for $3.00, their net goes up to $6.00. They made an extra buck on the…</span></p>
<p><em>"t's hardly enough money to worry about, especially since any used sale would definitely be a sales loss for the new ebooks."</em></p>
<p><span>That doesn't matter if all they're more concerned about dollars then volume of units. Let's say Amazon pays a publisher 5.00 and sells the book for 10; they make five dollars. The reader sells it back to Amazon for a buck; Amazon's net is down to four. But when they re-sell it for $3.00, their net goes up to $6.00. They made an extra buck on the deal. </span></p>
<p><span>They also never have to worry about the condition of the used book. It's always pristine.</span></p> Amazon won't be able to re-se…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680342013-02-21T18:14:34.571ZDana Kinghttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/DanaKing
<p>Amazon won't be able to re-sell the e-book unless a reader sells it back. At that point they are no longer serving as the publisher, but as a used book store. It's a little like is Penguin opened a used book store. Whatever legal obligation they had to the author expired when they paid your royalty.</p>
<p>Amazon won't be able to re-sell the e-book unless a reader sells it back. At that point they are no longer serving as the publisher, but as a used book store. It's a little like is Penguin opened a used book store. Whatever legal obligation they had to the author expired when they paid your royalty.</p> It really speaks to intent. I…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680852013-02-21T14:37:33.541ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
<p>It really speaks to intent. If your books have DRM then you're stating pretty clearly that you don't want them shared. If the books are DRM-free then you're saying you don't mind if they're shared.</p>
<p>It's true, the people who break the DRM don't care what you have to say about the books you wrote, at least everyone is clear about what's going on.</p>
<p>People who are very good at shoplifting would say that it's, "stupid easy to shoplift." And stores accept a certain amount of…</p>
<p>It really speaks to intent. If your books have DRM then you're stating pretty clearly that you don't want them shared. If the books are DRM-free then you're saying you don't mind if they're shared.</p>
<p>It's true, the people who break the DRM don't care what you have to say about the books you wrote, at least everyone is clear about what's going on.</p>
<p>People who are very good at shoplifting would say that it's, "stupid easy to shoplift." And stores accept a certain amount of shoplifting as the cost of doing business but they don't leave the doors unlocked overnight.</p>
<p>(having said that, I don't care if my books are protected in any way or not)</p>
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<p> </p> Yes, but how many people know…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680322013-02-21T14:08:17.400ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Yes, but how many people know this?</p>
<p>Yes, but how many people know this?</p> Well, considering the number…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680302013-02-21T14:06:55.359ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Well, considering the number of sales Amazon manages, both new and used, I expect they would in fact open a new lucrative market.</p>
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<p>Hmm, I wonder if one can pay formatters to build in something that makes a used e-book useless, or at least less desirable than new.</p>
<p>Well, considering the number of sales Amazon manages, both new and used, I expect they would in fact open a new lucrative market.</p>
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<p>Hmm, I wonder if one can pay formatters to build in something that makes a used e-book useless, or at least less desirable than new.</p> You might as well make your b…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3679182013-02-21T09:08:12.180ZJohn Dishonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/whiteskwirl
<p>You might as well make your books DRM-free because it is stupid easy to break the DRM anyway.</p>
<p>You might as well make your books DRM-free because it is stupid easy to break the DRM anyway.</p> I'm wondering if this is even…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-21:537324:Comment:3680772013-02-21T02:48:46.640ZLinton Robinsonhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/LintonRobinson
<p>I'm wondering if this is even about sales. </p>
<p>It's hardly enough money to worry about, especially since any used sale would definitely be a sales loss for the new ebooks.</p>
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<p>Amazon is sneaky and arcane. It's possible this is just some way of legally establishing "ownability" of ebooks, so they can enforce some other evil.</p>
<p>I'm wondering if this is even about sales. </p>
<p>It's hardly enough money to worry about, especially since any used sale would definitely be a sales loss for the new ebooks.</p>
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<p>Amazon is sneaky and arcane. It's possible this is just some way of legally establishing "ownability" of ebooks, so they can enforce some other evil.</p> I think John McFetridge is ri…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2013-02-20:537324:Comment:3681602013-02-20T23:01:56.884ZJude Hardinhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/festus
<p>I think John McFetridge is right. It'll be interesting, though, to see how Amazon the used e-book store balances this with Amazon the new e-book publisher.</p>
<p>I think John McFetridge is right. It'll be interesting, though, to see how Amazon the used e-book store balances this with Amazon the new e-book publisher.</p>