Wallander -- what do you all think? - CrimeSpace2024-03-28T14:10:14Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/wallander-what-do-you-all?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A200100&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI like Wallander. I consider…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-09-27:537324:Comment:2149702009-09-27T00:47:29.295ZJackBludishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JackBludis
I like Wallander. I consider British accents almost necessary for anyone but Americans in foreign pieces.<br />
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I have to admit that knowing nothing of the series before I caught it in the middle of the first episode that I was surprised somewhere along the line to learn that it was Sweden.<br />
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And speaking of Sweden, I'm about 1/3 of the way through "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo," by Stieg Larsson. It is written in a style and sense that seems unusual for me. If it were not for the title, it would…
I like Wallander. I consider British accents almost necessary for anyone but Americans in foreign pieces.<br />
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I have to admit that knowing nothing of the series before I caught it in the middle of the first episode that I was surprised somewhere along the line to learn that it was Sweden.<br />
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And speaking of Sweden, I'm about 1/3 of the way through "The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo," by Stieg Larsson. It is written in a style and sense that seems unusual for me. If it were not for the title, it would "feel" like a cozy. But, of course, I haven't come to the end yet. Now, see, I could totally see…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-01:537324:Comment:2011352009-06-01T23:16:17.723ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
Now, see, I could totally see him (Shaw) pulling off a judicial character. Dalgliesh, not so much.
Now, see, I could totally see him (Shaw) pulling off a judicial character. Dalgliesh, not so much. I never liked Dalgliesh -- in…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-01:537324:Comment:2011252009-06-01T21:40:36.796ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
I never liked Dalgliesh -- in the novels. The guy who used to play him (Marsden) was a bit of an improvement.<br />
Morse was wonderful both in the novels and played by John Thaw.
I never liked Dalgliesh -- in the novels. The guy who used to play him (Marsden) was a bit of an improvement.<br />
Morse was wonderful both in the novels and played by John Thaw. The new guy is Martin Shaw, a…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-06-01:537324:Comment:2011002009-06-01T20:56:52.333ZSuzannehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/dmbdenmother
The new guy is Martin Shaw, and I agree that he isn't suited to Dalgliesh. I think that once you see one actor in a role, it's difficult to accept a second one. Can you imagine anyone as Inspector Morse except John Thaw? Martin Shaw was VERY good in Judge John Deed, which ran for six years.
The new guy is Martin Shaw, and I agree that he isn't suited to Dalgliesh. I think that once you see one actor in a role, it's difficult to accept a second one. Can you imagine anyone as Inspector Morse except John Thaw? Martin Shaw was VERY good in Judge John Deed, which ran for six years. I like the series. Didn't kno…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-31:537324:Comment:2009932009-05-31T23:56:03.202ZJackBludishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JackBludis
I like the series. Didn't know it was Sweden at first. I thought it was rural coastal Great Britain.
I like the series. Didn't know it was Sweden at first. I thought it was rural coastal Great Britain. I think it depends a lot on t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-29:537324:Comment:2005902009-05-29T06:55:01.541ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
I think it depends a lot on the actor. Roy Marsden, who played Adam Dalgliesh in the PBS dramatization of P.D. James' novels, seemed to communicate so much with the slightest look or gesture. The guy who took over the role recently is, I think, just abysmal. But maybe I got attached to Marsden, and of course, I did read the books before watching the program, so maybe I.J. is right.
I think it depends a lot on the actor. Roy Marsden, who played Adam Dalgliesh in the PBS dramatization of P.D. James' novels, seemed to communicate so much with the slightest look or gesture. The guy who took over the role recently is, I think, just abysmal. But maybe I got attached to Marsden, and of course, I did read the books before watching the program, so maybe I.J. is right. You're right about the intern…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-29:537324:Comment:2005482009-05-29T01:26:16.748ZSuzannehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/dmbdenmother
You're right about the internalization. I'm a sucker for middle-aged police detectives who have problems with alcohol and authority --- Harry Bosch, John Rebus, can't remember the name of the Lawrence Block detective. All of the books have events as perceived by those characters. In Britain, there was a series of Rankin's books about Rebus. The dramatization also was a little flat, probably because internalization is also there. I guess the only way to avoid this in film is to use voice-overs,…
You're right about the internalization. I'm a sucker for middle-aged police detectives who have problems with alcohol and authority --- Harry Bosch, John Rebus, can't remember the name of the Lawrence Block detective. All of the books have events as perceived by those characters. In Britain, there was a series of Rankin's books about Rebus. The dramatization also was a little flat, probably because internalization is also there. I guess the only way to avoid this in film is to use voice-overs, but they can be dreadful, ala Mike Hammer. It may help to have read the…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-28:537324:Comment:2004912009-05-28T21:25:20.008ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
It may help to have read the books, because you get more involved with the Wallander character. TV series have to use shorthand for a lot. The plots seemed to me pretty close to the originals. I will say that the new breed of police procedural tends to emphasize different aspects of the crime novel than in the past. Wallander, in the TV series, appears alienated and unconnected. To some extent he is that way in the books also, but the books have space for human interplay between him and his…
It may help to have read the books, because you get more involved with the Wallander character. TV series have to use shorthand for a lot. The plots seemed to me pretty close to the originals. I will say that the new breed of police procedural tends to emphasize different aspects of the crime novel than in the past. Wallander, in the TV series, appears alienated and unconnected. To some extent he is that way in the books also, but the books have space for human interplay between him and his colleagues, and that I miss on TV. Also, television is lousy for internalizing, and the new crime novel does that a lot. I didn't care for it. I haven…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-28:537324:Comment:2004722009-05-28T20:51:27.868ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
I didn't care for it. I haven't read any of the books, but the show seemed flat, to me, with most of the tension patently manufactured. The English accents on the apparently Swedish characters also seemed to rob the thing of individuality -- the show doesn't seem to capture a particular place or setting. Normally I like Kenneth Branagh, but I just couldn't get into him on this program...
I didn't care for it. I haven't read any of the books, but the show seemed flat, to me, with most of the tension patently manufactured. The English accents on the apparently Swedish characters also seemed to rob the thing of individuality -- the show doesn't seem to capture a particular place or setting. Normally I like Kenneth Branagh, but I just couldn't get into him on this program... I must confess...I'm not a fa…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2009-05-27:537324:Comment:2003482009-05-27T18:12:43.273ZEDWARD C MORGANhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/ECMorgan
I must confess...I'm not a fan of stubble on the women I date.
I must confess...I'm not a fan of stubble on the women I date.