What now for book publishers? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T15:08:50Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/what-now-for-book-publishers?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A332743&feed=yes&xn_auth=noEgg-zackly.tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-16:537324:Comment:3342282012-03-16T07:23:49.503ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
<p>Egg-zackly.</p>
<p>Egg-zackly.</p> :-) I love it.
And sit on th…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-09:537324:Comment:3336832012-03-09T06:05:36.423ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>:-) I love it.</p>
<p>And sit on their samples for six months, then decide whether or not to respond at all?</p>
<p>:-) I love it.</p>
<p>And sit on their samples for six months, then decide whether or not to respond at all?</p> I've never understood why wri…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-09:537324:Comment:3335962012-03-09T05:22:52.727ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
<p>I've never understood why writers don't put freelance editors through the same rigorous weeding-out process they use on us. Submit some of your work. If it's perfect, I might hire you. I feel the same way about agents -- show me your stuff, prove to me you're going to be the best match possible for my work. Why on earth would I pay today's rates to somebody who can't even write a grammatical sentence?</p>
<p>I've never understood why writers don't put freelance editors through the same rigorous weeding-out process they use on us. Submit some of your work. If it's perfect, I might hire you. I feel the same way about agents -- show me your stuff, prove to me you're going to be the best match possible for my work. Why on earth would I pay today's rates to somebody who can't even write a grammatical sentence?</p> That would be Latent Self Pol…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-01:537324:Comment:3332552012-03-01T18:52:28.732ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>That would be Latent Self Pollution or something, wouldn't it?</p>
<p>That would be Latent Self Pollution or something, wouldn't it?</p> Benjamin, I for one am fascin…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-01:537324:Comment:3330722012-03-01T15:11:00.546ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>Benjamin, I for one am fascinated by your UK sales. Mine are lousy.</p>
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<p>As our contracts support the idea that we're paying publishers to do a good job, this also extends to promotion and marketing. Many trad. pubbed authors say their publishers have broken their contracts. Mind you, those very important items that can mean the difference between success or failure of a book aren't spelled out in contracts, only the percentages the publisher gets to keep. There is hardly…</p>
<p>Benjamin, I for one am fascinated by your UK sales. Mine are lousy.</p>
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<p>As our contracts support the idea that we're paying publishers to do a good job, this also extends to promotion and marketing. Many trad. pubbed authors say their publishers have broken their contracts. Mind you, those very important items that can mean the difference between success or failure of a book aren't spelled out in contracts, only the percentages the publisher gets to keep. There is hardly anything in such a contract that deals with specific performance of the publisher. </p> It's not BSP if I plan on rea…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-01:537324:Comment:3332472012-03-01T13:28:17.381ZBenjamin Sobieckhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
<p>It's not BSP if I plan on reading it anyway.</p>
<p>It's not BSP if I plan on reading it anyway.</p> It's more to do with the Disc…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-03-01:537324:Comment:3333452012-03-01T01:52:51.814ZBenjamin Sobieckhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/BenjaminSobieck
<p>It's more to do with the Discussion vs. BSP ratio, John. Sort of like how I could start a thread about the results of my KDP Select experiment, and how it's odd that I'm getting stellar sales on Amazon UK (currently #3,500 in paid) and almost zilch from Amazon US.</p>
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<p>Heck, I might even post a link to the novel here (<a href="http://amzn.to/ymL87R" target="_blank">http://amzn.to/ymL87R</a>) in case US readers want to check out a novel UK readers find so…</p>
<p>It's more to do with the Discussion vs. BSP ratio, John. Sort of like how I could start a thread about the results of my KDP Select experiment, and how it's odd that I'm getting stellar sales on Amazon UK (currently #3,500 in paid) and almost zilch from Amazon US.</p>
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<p>Heck, I might even post a link to the novel here (<a href="http://amzn.to/ymL87R" target="_blank">http://amzn.to/ymL87R</a>) in case US readers want to check out a novel UK readers find so interesting.</p>
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<p>But nope, I'm not here for BSP today. My view on this topic is this: If you're going to pay full-time employees at a publishing house, you best make some money. That means having your editors select and sculpt work that sells. It isn't possible for them to grab every work that might sell, just the ones they have the resources to invest into. That doesn't make them irrelevant, that makes them money.</p> I agree. I like to hear what…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-02-29:537324:Comment:3330362012-02-29T22:21:34.540ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
<p>I agree. I like to hear what people are doing now and then. I wish we'd talk more about why we write what we write and how we plan to move on. The BSP goes under blogs and merely announces a new release or shares reviews.</p>
<p>As for editors: In my case, SMP's editor only picked the title and the cover. Penguin's first editor cut the solution scene, then turned over future books to the copy editor for editing comments and simply copied them into her e-mail. All my American copy…</p>
<p>I agree. I like to hear what people are doing now and then. I wish we'd talk more about why we write what we write and how we plan to move on. The BSP goes under blogs and merely announces a new release or shares reviews.</p>
<p>As for editors: In my case, SMP's editor only picked the title and the cover. Penguin's first editor cut the solution scene, then turned over future books to the copy editor for editing comments and simply copied them into her e-mail. All my American copy editors were poor to average. Mostly, they were hung up on adding commas. One crossed out a correct spelling and substituted the wrong one. Copy editing was farmed out by my U.S. publishers. In England, it was in-house and very good.</p> If we're doing the BSP thing,…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-02-29:537324:Comment:3330352012-02-29T22:13:22.482ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
<p>If we're doing the BSP thing, Dana has to get in on it, his new novel WORST ENEMIES drops (as the kids say) tomorrow.</p>
<p>Self demotion is fine, but that's really a Canadian thing.</p>
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<p>If we're doing the BSP thing, Dana has to get in on it, his new novel WORST ENEMIES drops (as the kids say) tomorrow.</p>
<p>Self demotion is fine, but that's really a Canadian thing.</p>
<p> </p> Is there a penalty for self d…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2012-02-29:537324:Comment:3330512012-02-29T22:05:10.810ZCammy May Hunnicutthttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/CammyMayHunnicutt
<p>Is there a penalty for self demotion? I've been dabbling with it a bit here.</p>
<p>Is there a penalty for self demotion? I've been dabbling with it a bit here.</p>