Why do you read these books? - CrimeSpace2024-03-29T15:54:30Zhttps://crimespace.ning.com/forum/topics/why-do-you-read-these-books?commentId=537324%3AComment%3A234576&feed=yes&xn_auth=noFrom the disclaimer on the fr…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-10:537324:Comment:2346632010-05-10T02:16:41.867ZDaniel Hatadihttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/danielhatadi
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He he. ;)
From the disclaimer on the front page of CrimeSpace:<br />
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He he. ;) For some reason I always thin…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-10:537324:Comment:2346612010-05-10T01:43:05.846ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
For some reason I always think of it as a weapon... ;)
For some reason I always think of it as a weapon... ;) Dear Jack: Sorry about the Go…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-10:537324:Comment:2346602010-05-10T01:13:16.421ZJoyce Ann Fugithttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JoyceAnnFugit
Dear Jack: Sorry about the Google mess--I meant no harm. And, I certainly appreciated and learned from your re-write. I have, in the past, written to Yahoo and had links to my name on various sites removed. You could try this with Google as well--Just ask nicely. However, I seriously doubt you have any need to fear legal action from the Tolstoys or his publisher at, indeed, this very, very late date.
Dear Jack: Sorry about the Google mess--I meant no harm. And, I certainly appreciated and learned from your re-write. I have, in the past, written to Yahoo and had links to my name on various sites removed. You could try this with Google as well--Just ask nicely. However, I seriously doubt you have any need to fear legal action from the Tolstoys or his publisher at, indeed, this very, very late date. I think they were learning ab…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-10:537324:Comment:2346552010-05-10T01:00:10.431ZJoyce Ann Fugithttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JoyceAnnFugit
I think they were learning about publishing and the practical applications of writing over in the Journalism Department.<br />
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I learned from my daughter (The High School English Teacher) today (in the car during our 400 mile turn-around trip to have lunch with my Mother) that the more zealous style of writing you all now prefer is imperative to capture the interest of "mid-level" readers in the public school system. (Just toned down, considerably) I was discussing my proposal for a crime/detective…
I think they were learning about publishing and the practical applications of writing over in the Journalism Department.<br />
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I learned from my daughter (The High School English Teacher) today (in the car during our 400 mile turn-around trip to have lunch with my Mother) that the more zealous style of writing you all now prefer is imperative to capture the interest of "mid-level" readers in the public school system. (Just toned down, considerably) I was discussing my proposal for a crime/detective series for pre-adolescent boys. She explained that today, a great number of "mid-level" readers include high school students; and, she said the books I described for "boys" (using literally) would need to be much edgier than what I was proposing in order to grab their interest--mystery is always good for encouraging reading, murder is okay, and alluding to sexuality is necessary--it just cannot be blatant or all kinds of problems will arise in a public school.<br />
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I guess the days of sneaking Candy and the Kinsey Report off the bookshelves in my babysitting patrons' homes, once their kids were in bed, are long gone. They now provide the fun stuff you all read and write about (well, not quite) at school, as a ploy in the increasingly desperate struggle to produce an educated, well-read citizenry. Or even the canon. Although t…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-10:537324:Comment:2346542010-05-10T00:34:54.487ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
Or even the canon. Although the cannon, with its recoil and cordite fog, seems more suitable for crime fiction, somehow.
Or even the canon. Although the cannon, with its recoil and cordite fog, seems more suitable for crime fiction, somehow. One of the big discussion we…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-09:537324:Comment:2346502010-05-09T23:16:31.684ZJohn McFetridgehttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JohnMcF
One of the big discussion we have in Canada is that almost all of "CanLit" is produced by academics.<br />
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But that wasn't what I was trying to say. We look at books from previous generations as though they fell from the sky. The business that kept some in print and not others almost never gets mentioned. We don't even talk much about how so much literature needed a "champion" to get it recognized.<br />
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I've read a lot of books in my life that I wouldn't have picked up if they hadn't been "certified"…
One of the big discussion we have in Canada is that almost all of "CanLit" is produced by academics.<br />
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But that wasn't what I was trying to say. We look at books from previous generations as though they fell from the sky. The business that kept some in print and not others almost never gets mentioned. We don't even talk much about how so much literature needed a "champion" to get it recognized.<br />
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I've read a lot of books in my life that I wouldn't have picked up if they hadn't been "certified" and most of the time I've realized that, yeah, they are good books.<br />
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So, now we're seeing that with soe crime fiction. Martin Amis has become a champion of Elmore Leonard. A few critics are taking a much closer look at James Ellroy's novels. You never know, they may get into the cannon. You might be surprised, IJ. M…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-09:537324:Comment:2346492010-05-09T22:55:28.978ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
You might be surprised, IJ. My agent apparently has several clients who are academics writing genre under noms-de-plume.
You might be surprised, IJ. My agent apparently has several clients who are academics writing genre under noms-de-plume. Not many English Lit. profess…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-09:537324:Comment:2346482010-05-09T22:32:37.010ZI. J. Parkerhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/Ingpark
Not many English Lit. professors get published, at least not in a paying market.
Not many English Lit. professors get published, at least not in a paying market. The human mind is wired to se…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-09:537324:Comment:2346372010-05-09T16:54:26.361ZminervaKhttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/minervakoenig
The human mind is wired to see patterns. It's what makes us human, makes us create things like government and cities and crossword puzzles. We get a zing of lizard-brain satisfaction from seeing a set of seemingly random things fall into relationship to one another. That's why I like mysteries -- they satisfy the part of my brain that likes to see puzzles put together and worked out -- order out of chaos.<br />
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The 'literary' writers are doing something different, although I like most of them, too,…
The human mind is wired to see patterns. It's what makes us human, makes us create things like government and cities and crossword puzzles. We get a zing of lizard-brain satisfaction from seeing a set of seemingly random things fall into relationship to one another. That's why I like mysteries -- they satisfy the part of my brain that likes to see puzzles put together and worked out -- order out of chaos.<br />
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The 'literary' writers are doing something different, although I like most of them, too, in a different way. They don't give me that gut-level 'zing' of satisfaction at seeing a pattern emerge in the story (maybe I'm just too stupid). 'Literary' books are more concerned with the contemplative aspects of human experience -- grand themes and great truths. Good stuff, but not quite as satisfying to the id. That's my opinion.<br />
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<a href="http://www.minervakoenig.com" target="_blank">www.minervakoenig.com</a> I accept full responsibility,…tag:crimespace.ning.com,2010-05-09:537324:Comment:2346352010-05-09T15:50:12.980ZJon Loomishttps://crimespace.ning.com/profile/JonLoomis
I accept full responsibility, Jack. But while we're on the subject, maybe you could re-write some other stuff, too--you know, the Bible's a little slow in spots. And Shakespeare can get a bit wordy--Hamlet's soliloquy could be boiled down to something like "Dude, should I off myself, or what?"<br />
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Googling yourself is a bad idea--you'll go blind, you know.
I accept full responsibility, Jack. But while we're on the subject, maybe you could re-write some other stuff, too--you know, the Bible's a little slow in spots. And Shakespeare can get a bit wordy--Hamlet's soliloquy could be boiled down to something like "Dude, should I off myself, or what?"<br />
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Googling yourself is a bad idea--you'll go blind, you know.