Have you ever been to San Luca in Calabria? I think it's kind of like a residential town, but I'm trying to figure out if it has businesses in it too. I'm writing about the place in my new book. Thanks.
bc no one writes about the 'ndrangheta. nobody. i figured someone should, and that someone should be me. cosa nostra has been done so i just figured i would try something new, y'know. your story is very cool. really interesting that you lived just next door, and that they were seemingly good people.
i like writing organized crime. everything the chinese tongs to the 'ndrangheta and camorra to the irish mob, which is my favorite. i'm even planning organized crime from swedish immigrants in whatever city i end up using.
well i don't know... what do you wanna know? well, i mean i happen to know someone who is into it, but i didn't really know that they didi till they got stuck in jail, and they still say they were just framed.... I don't really know how to tell you, but to me they looked like very polite and even generous people (they used to live next door, and mine is a two-family house, so i really got to know them) and i couldn't believe all the things that the newspapers said about them...
as for the situation down in Calabria, that I don't know, i've been there several times on holidays (you know the sea is great there) but you can't really see anything about 'ndrangheta... i guess it all just flows under the surface....
where are you from? why sometihng about 'ndrangheta? (it's been a long time since i stopped writing about organized crime... my short stories are all about robbers or immigrants, small thieves and the likes...)
ya, noir and pulp is what i hear the most. i just call mine good ol' crime fiction, simple as that.
here's another one for you. i'm writing a new novel that features the 'Ndrangheta in San Luca, Calabria. i hear they have some braches in Torino. is that true, and do you any light to shed about it?
wow... my brother is a roma fan too... i'm not into football very much...
well i guess you are right about the word "giallo" (the word comes from the color of the "giallo mondadori" series which where the italian alternative to pulp fiction and whose sleeve was yellow ). Anyway we now use it mostly for classic mistery novels such as agatha christie's while we say"noir" (and we miss-use the term) referring to hardboiled detective fiction (Chandler, Hammett, Latimer, Bloch) and tough crime fiction (let's say everything from Jim Thompson to Richard Stark)...
at least that's what people does. there are also many crime fiction readers who are starting to call the various branches of the genre with their right names....
As soon as I saw the pic from 'Breathless' I knew I was going to enjoy this site... like I need one more diversion to keep me from doing what I'm supposed to do!
Welcome Fabrizio! I love that you love hardboiled. You'll love it here. It's a great site. The people are marvelous.
At 10:39am on September 5, 2007, Kelli Stanley said…
Not at all, Fabrizio, glad to chat! :) I studied art history, etruscology, Roman archaeology and Italian in Italy.
I'm not sure if Pasolini has any good English translations, but I believe Buzzati has been translated fairly well. He's a great writer! I'm also a big fan of "Dylan Dog"--I own a couple of early editions. :)
At 10:14am on September 5, 2007, Kelli Stanley said…
Grazie mille per l'invitazione, Fabrizio! I see we like the same kind of authors--I'm so glad you found Crimespace!
Have you ever seen Pasolini's Mama Roma? Very noir. I'm a big fan of Neo-Realism, too--and Anna Magnani. I lived in Firenze and Roma for a while, and mi manca Italia moltissimo. :)
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i like writing organized crime. everything the chinese tongs to the 'ndrangheta and camorra to the irish mob, which is my favorite. i'm even planning organized crime from swedish immigrants in whatever city i end up using.
as for the situation down in Calabria, that I don't know, i've been there several times on holidays (you know the sea is great there) but you can't really see anything about 'ndrangheta... i guess it all just flows under the surface....
where are you from? why sometihng about 'ndrangheta? (it's been a long time since i stopped writing about organized crime... my short stories are all about robbers or immigrants, small thieves and the likes...)
here's another one for you. i'm writing a new novel that features the 'Ndrangheta in San Luca, Calabria. i hear they have some braches in Torino. is that true, and do you any light to shed about it?
well i guess you are right about the word "giallo" (the word comes from the color of the "giallo mondadori" series which where the italian alternative to pulp fiction and whose sleeve was yellow ). Anyway we now use it mostly for classic mistery novels such as agatha christie's while we say"noir" (and we miss-use the term) referring to hardboiled detective fiction (Chandler, Hammett, Latimer, Bloch) and tough crime fiction (let's say everything from Jim Thompson to Richard Stark)...
at least that's what people does. there are also many crime fiction readers who are starting to call the various branches of the genre with their right names....
Gracie,
Mark
I'm not sure if Pasolini has any good English translations, but I believe Buzzati has been translated fairly well. He's a great writer! I'm also a big fan of "Dylan Dog"--I own a couple of early editions. :)
Have you ever seen Pasolini's Mama Roma? Very noir. I'm a big fan of Neo-Realism, too--and Anna Magnani. I lived in Firenze and Roma for a while, and mi manca Italia moltissimo. :)
Grazie ancora, and ci vediamo presto, spero!
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